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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official Defense thread***
BigRedChief 08:08 PM 09-21-2021
Discuss all things defense

When you're so bad at run defense you make it a legitimately good choice to run the ball at you consistently, that's pretty impressive(ly bad). https://t.co/hFnQIuLKqe

— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) September 21, 2021

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GloryDayz 03:23 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Spags isn't bad but he's not great either. Probably about average.

I don't think he is the main problem with the D. It's a lack of talent.
Spags is Andy's guy because Spags understands that he gets paid very well to keep his mouth shut about things and let Andy focus all of his attention to the O..
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TEX 03:27 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Spags isn't bad but he's not great either. Probably about average.

I don't think he is the main problem with the D. It's a lack of talent.
Yep. A decent pass rush would fix a lot So would LB's who could actually play. There is a serious lack of talent on every level of this defense.
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BigRedChief 06:52 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by TEX:
Yep. A decent pass rush would fix a lot So would LB's who could actually play. There is a serious lack of talent on every level of this defense.
We will get Clarks money next year to try again to find a DE. Gay has the speed we are missing to get out to the edge and make those tackles. Cover the TE in those 10-15 year pass plays in the flat that are killing us.......... if he can stay healthy.

But its also the scheme. The live TV feed captured Hitchens by the line of scrimmage, turn his back to the play and start running back into some coverage he's supposed to be in. Quick 5 yard pass to the RB in his vacated spot and its a 20 yard gain.
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Sassy Squatch 06:53 AM 10-11-2021

How bad is the Chiefs defense?

On a per-play basis, the most prolific offense in NFL history is the 2000 Rams. They averaged 7.0.

The 2021 Chiefs are allowing 7.1 yards per play.

— Paul Hembekides (@PaulHembo) October 11, 2021

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BigRedChief 06:59 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Holy mother of God.... Insert Picard double face palm

No need to make major changes huh Spags? How about some urgency here for crissakes. Try something else.
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F150 07:09 AM 10-11-2021

The 2018 Chiefs gave up 29+ points 6 times.

The 2019 Chiefs gave up 29+ points 4 times.

The 2020 Chiefs gave up 29+ points 4 times in the season.

The 2021 Chiefs have given up 29+ points 5 times in 5 weeks. pic.twitter.com/1PrzDvNfwH

— ItsMahomesSzn (@itsmahomesszn) October 11, 2021

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comochiefsfan 07:11 AM 10-11-2021
The 2018 chiefs look like the 85 Bears compared to our current defense.

It's THAT BAD.
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Sassy Squatch 07:25 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by F150:

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BigRedChief 07:26 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by F150:
Originally Posted by comochiefsfan:
The 2018 chiefs look like the 85 Bears compared to our current defense.

It's THAT BAD.
No need for urgency here....:-)
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SupDock 07:38 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by F150:
Yikes. We are on pace to be worse than that Sutton abomination in points allowed.
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Chris Meck 08:10 AM 10-11-2021
I seriously might even consider trading Jones this offseason.

Just dump every single big salary on that side of the ball.

Get a couple of decent players for each one, and stop trying to plug scrubs in around the supposed 'stars'.
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emaw1979 08:26 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I seriously might even consider trading Jones this offseason.

Just dump every single big salary on that side of the ball.

Get a couple of decent players for each one, and stop trying to plug scrubs in around the supposed 'stars'.
I agree with this. His value has probably decreased with the move to DE but I'd move him, let Badger walk (comp pick), cut Hitchens, Clark, NEIMAN. If the player is not on their rookie contract then they are gone IMO.

Additionally, Spags should be let go. His decisions with Sorenson over Thornhill is one of the worst player decisions I've ever seen as a Chiefs fan. Only out done by Grbac over Gannon. There is no reason for a veteran defensive unit to be so out of position and bad in their 3rd year in the system.
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Easy 6 08:33 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I seriously might even consider trading Jones this offseason.

Just dump every single big salary on that side of the ball.

Get a couple of decent players for each one, and stop trying to plug scrubs in around the supposed 'stars'.
I could probably be talked into that, maybe even Mathieu as well... somethings gotta give
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Chris Meck 08:44 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
I could probably be talked into that, maybe even Mathieu as well... somethings gotta give
Oh, I ASSUME HB's gone.

There's no reason to pay him. He's not a difference maker on this defense anymore, that's for certain. Nobody is.
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Easy 6 08:51 AM 10-11-2021
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Oh, I ASSUME HB's gone.

There's no reason to pay him. He's not a difference maker on this defense anymore, that's for certain. Nobody is.
Yep, a huge contract for a 30 year old goes against all prevailing wisdom

Its time to go young and hungry on defense... Clark, Jones, HB, Hitchens, Reed, Sorensen, and a number of others can all go on the chopping block
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