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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)
SHOWTIME 08:41 PM 01-21-2024
Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.
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smithandrew051 10:59 AM 01-22-2024
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
If Lamar can make that throw Josh made to Shakir they might beat us.

In the end, that's not a throw Lamar makes.

And their skill position players don't worry me. At ALL. Nor does their OL.

I really think this comes down to our OL blocking their front.

If we score 24, we win. Maybe 21.
My opinion here. Lamar and Allen are the same but opposites. They can hurt you with their arms or legs but differently.

Allen makes you respect his ridiculous arm talent, which makes him a dangerous runner (being a giant motherfucker doesn’t hurt either).

Jackson makes you respect his ridiculous elusiveness and speed, which makes him a dangerous passer.

I’m convinced Spags simply was not going to let Allen throw all over field on us, and he didn’t.

I wonder if he loads up against the run more this week and just dares Jackson to throw against these DBs.
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pugsnotdrugs19 11:02 AM 01-22-2024
Baltimore and Chiefs haters are gonna twist and contort a lot of arguments, use a lot of regular season statistics, that’s all fine and well, do you

But you should know better by now. Mahomes is 1 of 1. The stats go out the window come playoffs. You are dealing with the best, most clutch player to ever wear cleats. Can you win? Sure. Does ANYTHING you’ve done up to this point matter? Nah.
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Rausch 11:05 AM 01-22-2024
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:

I wonder if he loads up against the run more this week and just dares Jackson to throw against these DBs.
Stopping the more physical phat backs seems to be more of an issue for us anyway. We stop the BMore running game we stop their offense...
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staylor26 11:05 AM 01-22-2024
Just keep the game close going into the 4th. Even the Texans were capable of that. I think that's really all we have to do.
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pugsnotdrugs19 11:05 AM 01-22-2024
Could tell the team unlocked a new level of satisfaction being the road team. A team with championship DNA can galvanize in these spots. They know they can shut a whole stadium up because they’ve done it all before. Villain hat fits this team so well nowadays.
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Hammock Parties 11:06 AM 01-22-2024
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
I wonder if he loads up against the run more this week and just dares Jackson to throw against these DBs.
Yes. Because you can stop Baltimore's passing attack with single high.

In fact you want to, because you want to choke the middle of the field against their TE with Cover 3 zone at times. Alternate between Cover 3 zone and single high man you will endlessly frustrate Lamar.

And disguise the shit out of it by showing two high looks presnap.

And Lamar struggles throwing outside.

The Chiefs have personnel that matches up incredibly well with Lamar.

They have perfect spy guys, the right coverage guys who will absolutely dominate, and fast, athletic ends to contain the edge.

The biggest issue is going to be DT play but we've managed that all year.
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Sassy Squatch 11:06 AM 01-22-2024
Wonder if Morris takes some reps at LG as a contingency in case they try to exploit Allegreti with Madubike
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staylor26 11:06 AM 01-22-2024
Originally Posted by Rausch:
Stopping the more physical phat backs seems to be more of an issue for us anyway. We stop the BMore running game we stop their offense...
Defending Gus Edwards and Justice Hill should be MUCH easier than Cook and Mostert/Achance. I'm more concerned with the talent of the RB than the play style.
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SHOWTIME 11:07 AM 01-22-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Defending Gus Edwards and Justice Hill should be MUCH easier than Cook and Mostert/Achance. I'm more concerned with the talent of the RB than the play style.
But stopping Lamar more difficult than stopping Allen in the run game...
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staylor26 11:08 AM 01-22-2024
Originally Posted by SHOWTIME:
But stopping Lamar more difficult than stopping Allen in the run game...
Disagree. You have to respect Allen's passing and he's just such a fucking load on top of everything.

I don't think we have to respect Lamar's passing.
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smithandrew051 11:09 AM 01-22-2024
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Baltimore and Chiefs haters are gonna twist and contort a lot of arguments, use a lot of regular season statistics, that’s all fine and well, do you

But you should know better by now. Mahomes is 1 of 1. The stats go out the window come playoffs. You are dealing with the best, most clutch player to ever wear cleats. Can you win? Sure. Does ANYTHING you’ve done up to this point matter? Nah.
I was talking to a buddy about this the other day.

When you look back at a lot of Brady or Manning postseason wins, there’s a lot of revisionist “well of course Brady/Manning beat THAT team, look at their QB”. At the time though, it seemed much more even.

Matt Ryan and Cam Newton won MVPs in the years they lost to Manning/Brady just to come up small when it mattered most (even though Manning was awful that year).

Wouldn’t shock me if we looked back on this year and said “well no shit Mahomes beat Goff in the Super Bowl. Duh.”

The shine has already completely come off of Jalen Hurts and that 49er team. “Of course Mahomes beat Hurts and Garropolo in the Super Bowl. No surprise there.”

Good teams with decent QBs get completely forgotten in history when they play the all time elite QBs.
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MAG 11:09 AM 01-22-2024
They have a running back playing QB.
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ChiTown 11:11 AM 01-22-2024
Originally Posted by SHOWTIME:
But stopping Lamar more difficult than stopping Allen in the run game...
It's different. Stopping Lamar means actually getting your arms on him. Stopping Allen means he's typically dragging you 10 yards before you do so - even with 2-3 guys. You still need a spy on Lamar, and I'm hopeful Willie is healthy enough to get that done for us. BTW, Tranquill played a HELL of a game last night. Props to him.
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pugsnotdrugs19 11:12 AM 01-22-2024
http://https://x.com/pff_chiefs/stat...576171954?s=46

Trey Smith with ANOTHER monster game last night. No pressures allowed.
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pugsnotdrugs19 11:14 AM 01-22-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Disagree. You have to respect Allen's passing and he's just such a ****ing load on top of everything.

I don't think we have to respect Lamar's passing.
In the games I’ve watched, Lamar had made a ton of heroic like plays to extend drives. Like the one I remember in 2019 during the regular season when he would just heave a ball into coverage and someone would come down with it.

I expect plenty of those attempts but there’s no magic way to prevent it, just gotta hope our DBs are disciplined and compete through every whistle.
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