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Sassy Squatch 05:16 PM 12-14-2020
Originally Posted by Pants:
That's definitely how they went about the reviews. There was on embargo on footage and only PC versions were allowed to be reviewed.
Makes sense now why the pre release reviews were so good. That's some really scummy shit by CDPR.
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keg in kc 05:10 PM 12-14-2020
My ps4 performance has been so bad that I've only been able to play for 45 hours since launch.
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keg in kc 05:11 PM 12-14-2020
The oddest part about all of this is that this has been a ps4/xbone project since the beginning. Seems strange that those are the consoles with the most trouble.
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Pants 05:24 PM 12-14-2020
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
The oddest part about all of this is that this has been a ps4/xbone project since the beginning. Seems strange that those are the consoles with the most trouble.
I think they went through many iterations of the Red Engine in the 8-year span, but who knows.

reddit is full of idiocy, but someone did have a theory that, in my mind, sort of jived with what we are seeing. Basically, the idea was that at some point, CDPR decided to change their approach and start making the game for next gen/PC and then optimize it for current gen (current at that time). They miscalculated the amount of work and optimization it would take them and that lead to the initial delay from April to September and then to December.

I don't see any other explanation.

I think given their track record, the GOTY edition will probably look great and run great on both gens.

I'm also a firm believer that this game would have been delayed another few months at the very least if it weren't for investor demands.
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keg in kc 05:34 PM 12-14-2020
Originally Posted by Pants:
I think they went through many iterations of the Red Engine in the 8-year span, but who knows.

reddit is full of idiocy, but someone did have a theory that, in my mind, sort of jived with what we are seeing. Basically, the idea was that at some point, CDPR decided to change their approach and start making the game for next gen/PC and then optimize it for current gen (current at that time). They miscalculated the amount of work and optimization it would take them and that lead to the initial delay from April to September and then to December.

I don't see any other explanation.

I think given their track record, the GOTY edition will probably look great and run great on both gens.

I'm also a firm believer that this game would have been delayed another few months at the very least if it weren't for investor demands.
My theory is that Warner Brothers (the US publisher...) forced them to put it out before the holiday season.
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Sassy Squatch 05:26 PM 12-14-2020
Funny thing is the stocks actually tanked after the release. They really fucked themselves here.
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Pants 05:35 PM 12-14-2020
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Funny thing is the stocks actually tanked after the release. They really fucked themselves here.
No doubt.

I imagine it will recover because this game really is good enough to push millions of copies more.

I'm a fanboy of CDPR because I liked Witcher 3 so much, but just taking a step back and even objectively looking at what they have been able to achieve with this game, it's fucking stupendous.
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Sassy Squatch 05:41 PM 12-14-2020
Originally Posted by Pants:
No doubt.

I imagine it will recover because this game really is good enough to push millions of copies more.

I'm a fanboy of CDPR because I liked Witcher 3 so much, but just taking a step back and even objectively looking at what they have been able to achieve with this game, it's fucking stupendous.
Massive Witcher 3 fan as well, but hard disagree. The game is superficial as fuck. The AI is terrible and the gameplay is overly simplistic. It looks really good and the story is alright so it's got that going for it, but this game really needed a hell of a lot longer in the oven. Really disappointed.
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Pants 05:47 PM 12-14-2020
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Massive Witcher 3 fan as well, but hard disagree. The game is superficial as fuck. The AI is terrible and the gameplay is overly simplistic. It looks really good and the story is alright so it's got that going for it, but this game really needed a hell of a lot longer in the oven. Really disappointed.
Witcher 3 didn't have amazing combat or AI either. Both of those are a means to an end. The game, like Witcher 3, is about exploring the world, getting mixed in shit and experiencing great stories. The fact that you get to decide how to dispatch the shitty AI is just a cherry on top, man.
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keg in kc 05:48 PM 12-14-2020
Originally Posted by Pants:
Witcher 3 didn't have amazing combat or AI either. Both of those are a means to an end. The game, like Witcher 3, is about exploring the world, getting mixed in shit and experiencing great stories. The fact that you get to decide how to dispatch the shitty AI is just a cherry on top, man.
I still haven't finished witcher 3. For me, that game is just so easy to put down and forget about.

(I also haven't ever finished Inquisition, although that one is much closer to the end).

I think after 20+ years of fantasy rpgs, I'm just really excited to get a good future set rpg. The original deus ex's and mass effects and kotor's are just so rare in my experience. Whereas there's usually several fantasy games a year. I mean, shit, Baldur's Gate 3 next year looks awesome.

I am going to go back sometime and get The Outer Worlds. I've seen enough streaming to know I'll dig it.
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Sassy Squatch 05:53 PM 12-14-2020
Originally Posted by Pants:
Witcher 3 didn't have amazing combat or AI either. Both of those are a means to an end. The game, like Witcher 3, is about exploring the world, getting mixed in shit and experiencing great stories. The fact that you get to decide how to dispatch the shitty AI is just a cherry on top, man.
Maybe that's why I'm not digging it as much. The story just doesn't hold a candle to Witcher 3s, at least to me. But I've never really been all that into dystopian future settings so it's more just personal preference.
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Sassy Squatch 05:29 PM 12-14-2020
Sony is basically telling people to fuck off and wait for the patch if they bought it digitally. :-)
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keg in kc 05:37 PM 12-14-2020
It's already my favorite open world game ever. And I'm not out of the prologue yet.

(Seriously, I'm level 12, street cred 20, 40+ hours in playing on the highest difficulty and I haven't even run The Heist yet).
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Pants 05:40 PM 12-14-2020
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
It's already my favorite open world game ever. And I'm not out of the prologue yet.

(Seriously, I'm level 12, street cred 20, 40+ hours in playing on the highest difficulty and I haven't even run The Heist yet).
That's awesome, man.

I don't have as many hours into it but I am loving everything about it so far.

I'm planning on spending a lot of time in the game tonight, tomorrow and Wednesday, though. :-)
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keg in kc 05:42 PM 12-14-2020
I'm on vacation until Saturday. :-)
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