I’ve seen enough. Dude is as meh as it gets. Pacheco needs to take his spot yesterday. Dude has bad vision and he’s slow.
I hope we scout the cuts list to find another RB to add to the group so we can cut him. Seriously the only reason this guy is still on the roster is because he was a first rd pick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by CatfishBob2:
Agreed. It's arrogant to think you don't have to improve at a particular position. I can't recall Reid having a worse RB room. I think being so nonchalant about RB is a function of Andy wanting to cater the offense to what Pat did in college.
We weren't nonchalant about the RB position though.
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
The bar is a running back who can get the defense to fucking get out of their set. Currently CEH doesn't make the defense change their cover 2 shell.
Neither does Ronald Jones or Isiah Pacheco. Teams aren't coming out of the cover 2 shell. They're NEVER going to defend against a running game with Patrick Mahomes under center.
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Yeah we are 100% better and more likely to get to and win a SB with a RB who can break off a long run when the defense drops deep.
So you're willing to take double the fumbles for the CHANCE at a long run maybe once or twice in an entire season?
It's time to face facts - there's not a competent RB1 on this roster. It's not CEH, it's not RoJo, it's not Pacheco. This team is fully committed to RBBC. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
The bar is a running back who can get the defense to ****ing get out of their set. Currently CEH doesn't make the defense change their cover 2 shell.
Yeah we are 100% better and more likely to get to and win a SB with a RB who can break off a long run when the defense drops deep.
They aren't coming out of that shell. Run it all you want. The defense literally wants you to take the ball out of Mahomes hands. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
Bs!!..the team that won the superbowl had a big play back!!..the team can't keep skirting by thinking they can put everything on Pat's shoulders..it's a losing philosophy. If we had a good run game we would have been In the superbowl again...lesson's need to be learnt now.
Damien Williams had 2 big runs in the regular season. Take those away and he averaged just 2.9 YPC
Nobody feared him
But an elite RB would help this offense tremendously [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
They aren't coming out of that shell. Run it all you want. The defense literally wants you to take the ball out of Mahomes hands.
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
CEH is fine. He averages 4.4 ypc for his career. That is good enough in this offense. Jesus Christ, you can’t have an All-Pro at every position.
His yards over expected are well below average. His ypc is purely a product of the line. The line will block for what should be a 6-10 yard gain and he'll get 5. They'll block for what should be a 5 yard gain and he'll get 3. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
His yards over expected are well below average. His ypc is purely a product of the line. The line will block for what should be a 6-10 yard gain and he'll get 5. They'll block for what should be a 5 yard gain and he'll get 3.
That pretty much describes every back on the roster, IMO. You can't bank on a guy like Jones just because you think he might hit one or two home runs a season. [Reply]
At this point if keeping Jones would make them put Mahomes under center more and make them use things like ISO, Power, Counter and playaction...then yea make Jones the starter as this team would move the ball without a problem doing that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
That pretty much describes every back on the roster, IMO. You can't bank on a guy like Jones just because you think he might hit one or two home runs a season.
Of the backs, his instincts and vision are basically 100 times better than anyone else we have..he isn't good in the pass game but it is what it is. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
At this point if keeping Jones would make them put Mahomes under center more and make them use things like ISO, Power, Counter and playaction...then yea make Jones the starter as this team would move the ball without a problem doing that.
You think they're going to change the offense like that? Andy Reid? [Reply]