My initial thought on the draft after signing Brown was that a trade up for a surefire LT would be the plan, if Veach has a guy in mind.
I then got caught up in the sexy WR options, but as next week nears I've come back around to that thinking. That 5-year investment makes a lot of sense, especially when Mahomes proved last year that all he needs at WR is guys who don't drop the ball. Those guys can be had off the street or in mid-late rounds, as boring as that might be.
You likely aren't finding a franchise LT outside of the top 15 picks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dante84:
My initial thought on the draft after signing Brown was that a trade up for a surefire LT would be the plan, if Veach has a guy in mind.
I then got caught up in the sexy WR options, but as next week nears I've come back around to that thinking. That 5-year investment makes a lot of sense, especially when Mahomes proved last year that all he needs at WR is guys who don't drop the ball. Those guys can be had off the street or in mid-late rounds, as boring as that might be.
You likely aren't finding a franchise LT outside of the top 15 picks.
Well let's give it a look - I suspect you have 'top 10' comprises most of them. Before I do the homework I'll say top 10 is roughly 1/2 of your top tier tackles, another 25% in the next 22 picks, the remaining 25% everywhere else. We'll use PFF because it's an easy list.
Towards the bottom of that list I added some guys (and subtracted some) to address off seasons or out of the ordinary good ones. Guys like Cross and Ekwonu are early in their careers but I don't think either trend as 'franchise LTs right now. So I think that's a reasonably representative list. The top 10 was actually pretty sparse (only 4 of them) so I moved it to top 16 - the front half of the round.
Top 16: 11
17 - 32: 4
Everyone else: 14
The list isn't truly horrifying. Ramczyk and McGary are quite good. And guys like Dawkins, Moton, O'Neill, Goedeke and Brown out of the 2nd would all be fantastic assets for us as cheap, above average starting tackles.
I think we can get a guy that's good enough at the position from 32. But we have to identify/coach them up better than most. And we probably have to be a little patient. Obviously the hit rate is far higher at the top, but that's to be expected at essentially any position. There do appear to be a fair number of pretty good starting OTs that come from the back of the 1st and beyond. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I highly doubt a team picking at 32 is just saying "we'll take the best LT available".
If Rickey is on top of it, and they are truly dead set on a LT in the 1st, they must be preparing to go up and get their guy.
This tackle class is the best one in a long time to it makes sense.
The Athletic show was talking about tackles and one guy they said could fall to about 20 is Fataunu. Most expect Alt, Fashanu, Latham and Fuaga to go before him but he’s athletic as hell and started at LT ever year at Washington.
Only major con is he’s 6’4” which to me isn’t really a big negative [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
32 to 10 is just gonna.....shit it's gonna be expensive.
It costs so much to do it. It makes sense when you're going after a franchise QB, but at LT is so much more limited in what he can do for your team. I'll be pretty shocked if we make a deal to trade up this far for a LT. It wouldn't surprise me at all to trade up to get one, but up to #10 is something like our 1st pick this year, our second pick this year, and our first pick next year. Maybe more.
We could trade up to #16 this year with this year's first, this year's second, and next year's second. Maybe. [Reply]
Xavier Worthy is known for his 4.21 forty time at the NFL Combine but don’t get it twisted. Worthy can run routes with nice hip rotation at the break point!
Xavier Worthy is known for his 4.21 forty time at the NFL Combine but don’t get it twisted. Worthy can run routes with nice hip rotation at the break point!
Originally Posted by In58men:
Hypothetically speaking here, if Worthy or Thomas Jr was there at 32 who do you take?
Thomas Jr.
I like Worthy and think that he has better ability to run routes than his critics suggest. But Thomas Jr. is just so damn complete.
Worthy doesn't come down with the ball as often as you'd like in contested, difficult situations, which is why he's a 2nd round guy imo (not saying he wont go in the 1st, but i think he's 2nd round kinda guy)
Thomas Jr....i struggle to find any holes in his game. /Shrug.
Thomas Jr. is a CP draft forum wet dream. CPDF will let out a collective sigh heard across all of Chiefs Kingdom when he inevitably comes off the board. [Reply]
Xavier Legette on the @Chiefs would be a match made in heaven. Andy Reid covets versatility and Leggette played outside and in the slot at @GamecockFB Give Mahomes a guy who can turn a slant into a 60 yard TD and Xavier could be that anchor leg to help them run down a 3 peat. pic.twitter.com/sk5Wk9ErRM
Xavier Legette on the @Chiefs would be a match made in heaven. Andy Reid covets versatility and Leggette played outside and in the slot at @GamecockFB Give Mahomes a guy who can turn a slant into a 60 yard TD and Xavier could be that anchor leg to help them run down a 3 peat. pic.twitter.com/sk5Wk9ErRM
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This tackle class is the best one in a long time to it makes sense.
The Athletic show was talking about tackles and one guy they said could fall to about 20 is Fataunu. Most expect Alt, Fashanu, Latham and Fuaga to go before him but he’s athletic as hell and started at LT ever year at Washington.
Only major con is he’s 6’4” which to me isn’t really a big negative
But how many are left tackles is the thing. Plenty of projection but how much sure fire built for the left side guys? 3-4? [Reply]