Point is, I was on board with letting Berry walk then and I'm on board with cutting his ass now. What I saw written then is, in large part, what I see written now. The same people arguing about needing to keep him because he's such a game changer when he's here, etc. I want guys that affect games every week. Maybe they aren't as good as Eric Berry in some facets, and maybe they aren't as complete a player, but dag nabbit, they're fucking healthy.
You NEVER mentioned health in your opinion of Berry only that he wasn't good enough to deserve top tier contract back then which is 100% wrong.
So really you weren't correct about your opinion, he just ended up being hurt since signing the deal. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 007:
Every year the Chiefs have that ONE game that they had no business losing to some shitty team with no shot at the playoffs. That game hasn't happened yet. Lets get through this last game without being cocky so we can have a season with out this problem.
We got it out of the way last year with 4 of those losses for our next 4 seasons. We're good, man. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 007:
Every year the Chiefs have that ONE game that they had no business losing to some shitty team with no shot at the playoffs. That game hasn't happened yet. Lets get through this last game without being cocky so we can have a season with out this problem.
I totally agree with this. Besides, the Chiefs have had PLENTY of chances to lock up the #1 seed down the stretch, and for whatever reason, they have failed. Maybe with things on the line, they don't play well. Things are definitely on the line this week... [Reply]
Originally Posted by TEX:
I totally agree with this. Besides, the Chiefs have had PLENTY of chances to lock up the #1 seed down the stretch, and for whatever reason, they have failed. Maybe with things on the line, they don't play well. Things are definitely on the line this week...
Does 'PLENTY' mean more than 2? Just curious if there's something else I'm missing. They lost two games to good teams. The Raiders on the other hand are not a good team. No one doubts that things are on the line this week. Many of you just have major reservations about this team because we trailed the Chargers for 4 seconds and got beat by a good Seahawks team on the road in primetime.
I submit that the level of panic is at off-the-charts status. Proof? Some of you actually think we're going to lose to the Raiders. If that's the case, by all means, bet on the Raiders. If you think the Chiefs are so entirely miserable that this is going to be a real game, then go and put down actual money on the Raiders and take your 14pt head start. Hedge your happiness and make money in the process. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Does 'PLENTY' mean more than 2? Just curious if there's something else I'm missing. They lost two games to good teams. The Raiders on the other hand are not a good team. No one doubts that things are on the line this week. Many of you just have major reservations about this team because we trailed the Chargers for 4 seconds and got beat by a good Seahawks team on the road in primetime.
I submit that the level of panic is at off-the-charts status. Proof? Some of you actually think we're going to lose to the Raiders. If that's the case, by all means, bet on the Raiders. If you think the Chiefs are so entirely miserable that this is going to be a real game, then go and put down actual money on the Raiders and take your 14pt head start. Hedge your happiness and make money in the process.
"Plenty" means more chances than any other team in the AFC to control their own destiny and gain the # 1 seed down the strrtch. The simple fact that this point even needs explaining is exactly why some of you will be staring at your TV in disbelief IF the Raiders beat the Chiefs Sunday.
No panic friend - it's the NFL - It's called "On any given Sunday," and it's come down to the last Sunday. Don' confuse urgency for panic. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
I have supported Berry throughout the season, and I stand by my statements bashing people who questioned his toughness and who said that he was just sticking around for a paycheck. I think Berry has earned the benefit of the doubt. Also, we have no idea what the internal discussions were between him, the trainers and doctors, and Reid and Veach.
But I have been on the cut or restructure Houston bandwagon for a long time. I believe Houston has value, but not at his current salary. And even with the benefit of the doubt, Berry is now on the cut/injury settlement list, regardless of health. I am not sure if it's even worth keeping him even if he restructured his contract.
I’ve never thought that Berry was milking the Chiefs for money. I think he wants to play but there is probably much more to his injury than what the Chiefs have told us, which is basically nothing. Unfortunately it’s beginning to appear that this is something that is going to be a chronic problem or one that requires surgery which will put him out even longer. Either way it sucks because he’s been a solid player for this team since he was drafted. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefs Moon:
Berry needed surgery to remove what is essentially a bone spur. He didn't do that so he guaranteed on-going tendonitis after prolonged running/playing in games. He has wasted a roster spot.
He should have just had surgery. But the Chiefs had a somewhat difficult decision to make. This isn't as bungled or as easy as you guys make it seem. I think they thought he would be able to play more games. If he gets surgery he's out for likely the entire regular season, maybe you get him back for the playoffs. He might have been ready by now. Some people can successfully play through this - but apparently EB isn' one of them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TEX:
"Plenty" means more chances than any other team in the AFC to control their own destiny and gain the # 1 seed down the strrtch. The simple fact that this point even needs explaining is exactly why some of you will be staring at your TV in disbelief IF the Raiders beat the Chiefs Sunday.
No panic friend - it's the NFL - It's called "On any given Sunday," and it's come down to the last Sunday. Don' confuse urgency for panic.
Originally Posted by BWillie:
He should have just had surgery. But the Chiefs had a somewhat difficult decision to make. This isn't as bungled or as easy as you guys make it seem. I think they thought he would be able to play more games. If he gets surgery he's out for likely the entire regular season, maybe you get him back for the playoffs. He might have been ready by now. Some people can successfully play through this - but apparently EB isn' one of them.
If he'd had the surgery during camp like he should have, he could have been ready for the start of next year. Now, if he does, he probably won't be. [Reply]