Honestly, I’d rather keep him along the interior where he is elite. But Stout mentioned that the base DL is Jones and Clark on the edges with Reed and Nnadi along the interior.
That’s a big risk the team is taking, and the early returns in spot duty last year were not encouraging.
But Stout mentions that Jones has slimmed down a ton as well, clearly prepared to take a stronger role at RDE.
Maybe the most important thing to watch for our defense.
He also mentions Humphrey is your starting center. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
It’s clearly a problem to our brass bc they brought in Melvin Ingram. They know it’s a big pain point
They brought in Ingram as due diligence. If it were a huge pain point, they would have signed him instead of signing Reed and all the other guys they've acquired since then.
They acquired another offensive tackle and traded for a CB - both positions are LOADED - but they haven't signed another DE.
I don't think they see it as a dire need at all. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They brought in Ingram as due diligence. If it were a huge pain point, they would have signed him instead of signing Reed and all the other guys they've acquired since then.
They acquired another offensive tackle and traded for a CB - both positions are LOADED - but they haven't signed another DE.
I don't think they see it as a dire need at all.
That’s bc (per Nate Taylor) Ingram is notoriously pushy with salary and wants a lot. Basically more than he’s worth. Did that with the Chargers and Nate indirectly said he did it here too [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
That’s bc (per Nate Taylor) Ingram is notoriously pushy with salary and wants a lot. Basically more than he’s worth. Did that with the Chargers and Nate indirectly said he did it here too
Sure. And the fact that the Chiefs let him walk away and haven't really talked to him since just further reinforces my point. [Reply]
If the need at DE were that extreme, they would have signed Ingram for whatever he wanted...
Or they would have pursued someone that was more willing to sign.
Ingram's reputation isn't unknown to the Chiefs. The fact that they brought him under those circumstances suggests they see him as a luxury, not a need. [Reply]
So this has fucking sucked. Badly. Jones is getting neutralized as a pass rusher for the most part by back up quality OTs, is a massive liability in the running game, and his "replacement" inside, Reed, is a complete waste of space.
I thought this was going to be a scenario where Jones is moved around to attack the weak links on opposing OLs with pass rush, but he's legit just playing the DE spot and doing it quite poorly. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
So this has ****ing sucked. Badly. Jones is getting neutralized as a pass rusher for the most part by back up quality OTs, is a massive liability in the running game, and his "replacement" inside, Reed, is a complete waste of space.
I thought this was going to be a scenario where Jones is moved around to attack the weak links on opposing OLs with pass rush, but he's legit just playing the DE spot and doing it quite poorly.
I agree with this but it’s not easy to rush when they are running so much. So many times I couldn’t even tell where the ball was. Ravens did a great job keeping us guessing. [Reply]
I'm actually willing to give this experiment more time. Against traditional offenses, Jones will likely be fine at DE.
But against a mobile QB and offense that runs the read option so much, he is not a good fit. He's just not athletic or experienced enough in the role to cover the space necessary to make the big plays. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I'm actually willing to give this experiment more time. Against traditional offenses, Jones will likely be fine at DE.
But against a mobile QB and offense that runs the read option so much, he is not a good fit. He's just not athletic or experienced enough in the role to cover the space necessary to make the big plays.
I agree with this. My concern is that we took a great DT and turned him into an average DE.
But that's not necessarily Jones' fault, it's Veach's. We had no other choice at DE. [Reply]