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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2023-2024 NBA Thread***
dirk digler 04:43 PM 10-24-2023
Can't believe the NBA Season is starting tonight. Way to early but here we go.

Lakers vs Nuggets: 6:30PM

Suns vs Warriors: 9PM

Both on TNT
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Coogs 10:37 AM 06-20-2024
Eyeball test says it's Jordan in a landslide.
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Megatron96 01:09 PM 06-20-2024
JJ REddick is now Lakers coach, according to ESPN. 4-year deal.
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BWillie 01:25 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by Coogs:
Eyeball test says it's Jordan in a landslide.
The eyeball test favors LeBron by a fucking landslide. What are you talking about? The results test says Jordan but LeBron is ridiculous when you watch him play, especially in his prime. His size, his athleticism, his touch, his power, his vision, his shooting even.
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ChiefsFan88 01:29 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
JJ REddick is now Lakers coach, according to ESPN. 4-year deal.
Lakers just loves getting former Magic players
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staylor26 01:51 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by BWillie:
The eyeball test favors LeBron by a fucking landslide. What are you talking about? The results test says Jordan but LeBron is ridiculous when you watch him play, especially in his prime. His size, his athleticism, his touch, his power, his vision, his shooting even.
:-) :-)

This just further cements the fact that the eye ball test favors Jordan.

Lebron has always been a freak of nature, but nowhere near as skilled. The eye ball test is about skill, not just raw athleticism, dipshit.

Your Jokic/Luka takes prove you don't even appreciate skill :-)
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KC_Connection 02:03 PM 06-20-2024
At least LeBron’s legacy wasn’t built on fraudulent statistics and Nike propaganda ad campaigns.
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KC_Connection 02:04 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
JJ REddick is now Lakers coach, according to ESPN. 4-year deal.
LeBron gets what he wanted. I think everyone saw that coming.
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staylor26 02:07 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
At least LeBron’s legacy wasn’t built on fraudulent statistics and Nike propaganda ad campaigns.
I promise you and all the other Bronsexuals are the only bundle of stickss that care much about stats in this argument.
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Megatron96 02:21 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by BWillie:
The eyeball test favors LeBron by a fucking landslide. What are you talking about? The results test says Jordan but LeBron is ridiculous when you watch him play, especially in his prime. His size, his athleticism, his touch, his power, his vision, his shooting even.


Lol, just no. The 'Eyeball Test' will always favor Jordan. Only ignorant fanboys would argue LeBron's tape over MJ's. It's not even close.
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staylor26 02:23 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Lol, just no. The 'Eyeball Test' will always favor Jordan. Only ignorant fanboys would argue LeBron's tape over MJ's. It's not even close.
He doesn't even know what the eye test is.

He clearly thinks it's mostly about raw athleticism.
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chiefzilla1501 02:25 PM 06-20-2024
I’ve come to respect lebron as he matured and became a better leader over the course of his career. He is easily in the top 2 of all time and obviously plenty of debate between him and Jordan. Without a doubt lebron is the most talented (which includes god given physical characteristics) to ever play the game, and one of the best basketball IQs ever. And I say “one of”, because there were a lot of brilliant players who had no god given talent.

But it’s still Jordan for me. Peak Jordan is the best I’ve ever seen in any sport, which is an insanely high bar when you got guys like tiger out there. Gretzky maybe, but I never followed hockey enough to give an honest opinion. Where mahomes has that rip your heart out mentality behind charm and a smile, Jordan had it but was unapologetically a killer. I respect lebrons killer instinct but Jordan did it better than anyone in any sport. I think that is a GOAT quality that may never be matched for generations to come.
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Megatron96 02:25 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
He doesn't even know what the eye test is.

He clearly thinks it's mostly about raw athleticism.


Either that, or he's never seen Jordan play. Either way, he doesn't know that the eff he's talking about.
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Megatron96 02:26 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I’ve come to respect lebron as he matured and became a better leader over the course of his career. He is easily in the top 2 of all time and obviously plenty of debate between him and Jordan. Without a doubt lebron is the most talented (which includes god given physical characteristics) to ever play the game, and one of the best basketball IQs ever. And I say “one of”, because there were a lot of brilliant players who had no god given talent.

But it’s still Jordan for me. Peak Jordan is the best I’ve ever seen in any sport, which is an insanely high bar when you got guys like tiger out there. Gretzky maybe, but I never followed hockey enough to give an honest opinion. Where mahomes has that rip your heart out mentality behind charm and a smile, Jordan had it but was unapologetically a killer. I respect lebrons killer instinct but Jordan did it better than anyone in any sport. I think that is a GOAT quality that may never be matched for generations to come.


I'm not sure LeBron cracks the top-5. And MJ was far more athletically gifted/talented than LeBron ever was. LeBron is one of the best players in history, yes, but he's overrated at this point. I can't put him above Kobe, or Bird, or Wilt. Probably not above Bill Russell either.
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DJ's left nut 02:29 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
JJ REddick is now Lakers coach, according to ESPN. 4-year deal.
Redick was going to be an NBA head coach in the next year or two and the Lakers had an opening now.

It's early. Ideally he learns on the job somewhere else. He's gonna have some issues with rabbit ears early in his career, IMO - ESPECIALLY in LA. And he's gonna need to get that figured out.

I'd prefer he get that figured out in Orlando before the Lakers snipe him.

But this hire has some upside to it. He might be good. He might be Luke Walton. It's just hard to know.
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Megatron96 02:33 PM 06-20-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Redick was going to be an NBA head coach in the next year or two and the Lakers had an opening now.

It's early. Ideally he learns on the job somewhere else. He's gonna have some issues with rabbit ears early in his career, IMO - ESPECIALLY in LA. And he's gonna need to get that figured out.

I'd prefer he get that figured out in Orlando before the Lakers snipe him.

But this hire has some upside to it. He might be good. He might be Luke Walton. It's just hard to know.


I have no idea. I barely remember the guy when he was a player. He was decent, as I recall. If I had a take, it would be that his lack of experience is going to prevent him from winning a Ring in LA. But who knows? The NBA at this point is much more about the players and their individual talent than it is about team chemistry/scheme/coaching so maybe he'll just ride a good team to the Finals.
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