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Nzoner's Game Room>****The Tyreek Hill Thread***
Dante84 01:14 PM 04-30-2016
With the 165th pick, in the 5th round.

Nutt said that Toub felt Hill was like Devin Hester.

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) April 30, 2016




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Perineum Ripper 08:37 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
What are you talking about? He fucking qualified for the Olympics in 2012. They super imposed his football speed over the 100m and his simulated run was in the pack. He wouldn't be able to compete with a bulked up body made for football but his contract ends after 2022. Olympic qualifiers start 2023 and then the Olympics are in 2024. Hes not shy about voicing his dream about competing in the Olympics and 2024 would be his last shot at legitimately competing.
He also said world class speed, not just Olympic speed


There is a difference between those
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jd1020 08:41 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by mac459:
He also said world class speed, not just Olympic speed


There is a difference between those
Olympic speed is world class speed. Would he be out there competing with Usain Bolts records? No. But given that his football speed was competing with the main pack, there's no reason to believe that if he lost some of the bulk and focused purely on straight line speed for a little over a year he couldn't be competing for a podium.
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Perineum Ripper 08:53 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Olympic speed is world class speed. Would he be out there competing with Usain Bolts records? No. But given that his football speed was competing with the main pack, there's no reason to believe that if he lost some of the bulk and focused purely on straight line speed for a little over a year he couldn't be competing for a podium.
You just admitted there is a difference in Olympic speed and world class Olympic speed. That what was Buehler said, world class Olympic speed, not Olympic speed.
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jd1020 08:56 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by mac459:
You just admitted there is a difference in Olympic speed and world class Olympic speed. That what was Buehler said, world class Olympic speed, not Olympic speed.
No. I admitted there is a difference between Usain Bolt and everybody else.

If you dont think being in the hunt at the Olympics is world class speed then you are dumb as fuck.
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Buehler445 09:05 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
What are you talking about? He fucking qualified for the Olympics in 2012. They super imposed his football speed over the 100m and his simulated run was in the pack. He wouldn't be able to compete with a bulked up body made for football but his contract ends after 2022. Olympic qualifiers start 2023 and then the Olympics are in 2024. Hes not shy about voicing his dream about competing in the Olympics and 2024 would be his last shot at legitimately competing.
His best 100M speed at a much lighter weight is a wind assisted 9.98. That time gets him crushed in heat 3 of the semis and barely sneaks him into the finals in the other 2 semis and then, his best time ever, ties him for dead last if he happens to sneak into the finals.

And let's be clear here. He absolutely did not qualify for the 2012 Olympics. His time might have qualified for him to compete at the Olympic Trials, in which he did not compete.

https://www.runnerspace.com/news.php?news_id=26435

The formatting is trash, so if you want to verify, you'll have to do so at your leisure, but here are the dudes that ran the finals in the 100M:

Justin Gatlin
Tyson Gay
Ryan Bailey
Michael Rodgers
Darvis Patton
Trell Kimmons
Jeff Demps
Walter Dix

So you are unequivocally incorrect. He most certainly did not qualify for the Olympics. He might have had the opportunity to compete for the qualification. But he did not qualify.

I mean, he could certainly quit football and go back to T&F, but I think you're underestimating the difference in training he'd have to undergo, and it doesn't really happen in a year. And he'd be 29 starting it.

That's unlikely.
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Perineum Ripper 09:08 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
No. I admitted there is a difference between Usain Bolt and everybody else.

If you dont think being in the hunt at the Olympics is world class speed then you are dumb as fuck.
I’m dumb as fuck? You are the one who does not understand the difference of what was said and is trying to compare a large group of impressive athletes to the elite of that group.


That’s like saying Mahomes is just as special as Tim Tebow Alex Smith, they have all played QB for a NFL team so they are all world class QBs. To me that is dumb as fuck to shit on the most elite, so that you can win a discussion on the internet that you resort to name calling because your too fragile to have an actual discussion.
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jd1020 09:09 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by mac459:
I’m dumb as fuck? You are the one who does not understand the difference of what was said and is trying to compare a large group of impressive athletes to the elite of that group.


That’s like saying Mahomes is just as special as Tim Tebow Alex Smith, they have all played QB for a NFL team so they are all world class QBs. To me that is dumb as fuck to shit on the most elite, so that you can win a discussion on the internet that you resort to name calling because your too fragile to have an actual discussion.
:-)

You think you arent dumb and you bring up me comparing a dude who would have qualified for the Olympics in 2012 if he ran in the event to comparing Mahomes with Tim Tebow and Alex Smith.

Ya... your and idiot.

The Olympics has already weeded out the Alex Smiths and Tim Tebows. The Olympics is Mahomes going up against Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Allen, Jackson, etc... Mahomes is Usain Bolt. Everyone is world class.
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Perineum Ripper 09:17 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
:-)

You think you arent dumb and you bring up me comparing a dude who would have qualified for the Olympics in 2012 if he ran in the event to comparing Mahomes with Tim Tebow and Alex Smith.

Ya... your and idiot.
So you said earlier he qualified for the Olympics now it’s he would have. You can’t even formulate a consistent argument to support yourself, but want to call me dumb.


There is no point in talking to someone who can’t even formulate a solid foundation for what they are trying to discuss. So congratulations you win a pointless discussion on the internet because you can’t articulate it well enough, that you default to name calling. You are so smart and more of a man than I could ever wish to be
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Chris Meck 09:19 AM 10-19-2021
You guys are nuts.

LOL
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jd1020 09:20 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by mac459:
So you said earlier he qualified for the Olympics now it’s he would have. You can’t even formulate a consistent argument to support yourself, but want to call me dumb.
Ya lets pretend that because he didn't run the event he wasn't capable of making the team. His times were automatic qualifiers and he would have made the team.

Sorry Tyreek, you just arent good enough to compete in the Olympics. A farmer and a idiot that want to play technicalities don't think you are fast enough. Give it up, Tyreek!
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Perineum Ripper 09:21 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
:-)

You think you arent dumb and you bring up me comparing a dude who would have qualified for the Olympics in 2012 if he ran in the event to comparing Mahomes with Tim Tebow and Alex Smith.

Ya... your and idiot.

The Olympics has already weeded out the Alex Smiths and Tim Tebows. The Olympics is Mahomes going up against Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Allen, Jackson, etc... Mahomes is Usain Bolt. Everyone is world class.



Since you added an edit,



The NFL draft already weeded out the ones who couldn’t make it to the pros. Training camp, preseason weed out the rest, that leaves you with Alexx Smith, Tim Tebow, Ryan Leaf being world class along with Brady Rogers, Mahomes, Manning



Not the best analysis you could have had, should have used the playoffs, would had made me work harder to support my side
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Perineum Ripper 09:24 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Ya lets pretend that because he didn't run the event he wasn't capable of making the team. His times were automatic qualifiers and he would have made the team.

Sorry Tyreek, you just arent good enough to compete in the Olympics. A farmer and a idiot that want to play technicalities don't think you are fast enough. Give it up, Tyreek!
I’m a former Ranger/RRC team leader, Special Forces Weapons Sergeant, farmer, idiot that want people to appreciate the difference in world class athletes and the world class athletes that are a step above them
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Buehler445 09:25 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
:-)

You think you arent dumb and you bring up me comparing a dude who would have qualified for the Olympics in 2012 if he ran in the event to comparing Mahomes with Tim Tebow and Alex Smith.

Ya... your and idiot.

The Olympics has already weeded out the Alex Smiths and Tim Tebows. The Olympics is Mahomes going up against Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Allen, Jackson, etc... Mahomes is Usain Bolt. Everyone is world class.
Yeah, you're wrong here.

There were 33 people competing for the Men's 100 M in 2012 from the link I posted.

Tyreek would have qualified then, and been 1 in 33.

Mahomes is 1 of 32.

Sam Darnold is to Patrick Mahomes as Tyreek Hill is to Usain Bolt.
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jd1020 09:27 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Yeah, you're wrong here.

There were 33 people competing for the Men's 100 M in 2012 from the link I posted.

Tyreek would have qualified then, and been 1 in 33.

Mahomes is 1 of 32.

Sam Darnold is to Patrick Mahomes as Tyreek Hill is to Usain Bolt.
Are you stupid? He would have qualified and been competing at the Olympics. Not the fucking qualifiers. Sam Darnold isn't invited.
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Buehler445 09:31 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Ya lets pretend that because he didn't run the event he wasn't capable of making the team. His times were automatic qualifiers and he would have made the team.

Sorry Tyreek, you just arent good enough to compete in the Olympics. A farmer and a idiot that want to play technicalities don't think you are fast enough. Give it up, Tyreek!
God you're being insufferable.

All I'm doing is pushing back on the idea that he'd stroll onto the Olympic stage and whip ass. And then point out the instances in which you are incorrect, because you obviously don't even have a passive understanding of Olympic Track and Field.

I love Hill. A lot. He's the fastest dude I've ever seen play football. Ever. But he isn't an Olympic Sprinter. He maybe could have been a qualifier once, but he's a long way away from the Olympic podium.

And with that, I have no interest in continuing this conversation.
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