Simms ALWAYS does ranking that push against the grain because he knows people will talk about what he said.

I think Tyree Wilson could be picked ahead of Will Anderson because of well the history of the NFL.
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Again, listening to Middlekauf talking about some of his scouting buddies, they aren't really top end of the draft high on Will Anderson.
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He's probably not an ideal 4-3 player.

If you're going to take him high, you probably need to be a 3-4 team. So for Seattle I was happy to have him fall to me in the CP Mock. But I could see teams that are focused on finding traditional 4-3 DEs being a little less enthusiastic about him because I'm not sure he's stout enough to be an every down lineman in a 4-3.

But putting him behind McDonald is stupid. They're the same style of player, Anderson's just better.
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So - why isn't anyone talking about Colby Wooden?

Are they and I'm just not hearing it? Wouldn't mind seeing a little more arm length but his are by no means short. Good mass, solid athleticism, seems to have nice bend and a good pass rush approach.

I'm routinely seeing him available in the 3rd - is there any reason at all that we shouldn't be pretty damn stoked to get him there if he made it? What am I missing? I've been focused on Zach Harrison there as a possibility but Wooden is just...better. Just a lot more dynamic from what I can see.

Why does he suck? Because I don't feel like he does.
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I like him. Ended up snagging him in the middle of the 4th for the Patriots. Not sure if I'd take him in the 3rd but maybe. His run defense is lacking and his sack/pressure production isn't enough to make up for it, especially as an outside rusher. He's still better than Harrison in my opinion too.
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DTs

1st - Breese, Smith, Benton
2nd - Dexter, Roy

Any NT types that we like later in the draft? Coburn, maybe?
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DE's

1st - Murphy, White, Foskey, McDonald
2nd - Tuipulotu, Adebaware, Hall
3rd - Harrison, Young, Carter
4th - Diaby, McGuire, Fehoko, Brooks
5th - Incoom
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Let's say hypothetically:
Lukas Van Ness falls to like 20.
Mazi Smith falls to like 50.
Is it worth it to move up in either scenario? Both scenarios? How does this D line compare to spags SB winning dline with the giants?

For my part, this is the dream, and I would not hesitate to burn a second from next year to move up for van Ness and 95 this year to move up for smith. The dline instantly becomes a huge strength and the defense becomes incredible for the foreseeable future.
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Sure! Let's do it!
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How about Myles Murphy and Keanu Benton?
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I'd have to see the board.

My first impression is no, I wouldn't trade up for either.
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Murphy - maybe.

Benton - still no.

If Kancey's height/length issues have him sliding in the 2nd though, that's a guy I might be willing to move up for. Because unlike your Mazi Smith sorts, he's a guy who might be a difference maker.

Could Kancey be a Dre'mont Jones sort of interior pass-rusher? Yeah, I think he can be. And maybe a little better especially with Jones being able to draw some attention and maybe help him keep guys hands off him a bit.

If I've traded up for Murphy, though, I'm not also trading up for Kancey. It's just too much capital to throw at the DL when I still think we need a substantial infusion of talent/depth at WR and OL.
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This board pretty routinely undersells the value of a 3 down 1 tech, imo. Mazi will demand double teams, which will single up the edges and CJ.


DJLN, this comment is purely for the sake of continuing the conversation and is not intended as shade or anything like that:
Kancey would play three technique and get destroyed on down run blocks. So you only play him in obvious passing situations? Replacing whom, exactly? Who is your four man front with Kancey? Are you moving CJ to one tech, so you can free up kancey to rush? Plus, frankly, I have reservations about a 280 pound d lineman with 30 inch arms and their ability to beat virtually any nfl guard.
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Every down is a passing down in the modern NFL.

If having him on the field encourages teams to run the ball more - hell, that's value in its own right.

But in clear running situations I'm just going to go ahead and have a body in there. Nnadi and a 4th/5th rounder? A FA pickup this summer like Wormley?

I just don't care as much about the position as many others do. We HAVE our monster in the middle. Would there be some value in another guy like Smith alongside him? Sure - but hell, I just don't think fat/heavy guys are that hard to find.

And no team will EVER double-team Mazi Smith to set up Chris Jones. Jones is going to demand the double teams - full stop. The only time you'll see Smith doubled is on run plays and if that's the case - fine. But nobody's going to do the math and choose to free single Jones in a passing situation in favor of Mazi Smith and his half sack/season production.
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