Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
Not surprisingly, you completely missed the point of why I made that comment. Considering you have IQ of a common flea, I'm going to try and lay it out for you like I would to my 4-year old niece.
The point is, you try and pretend that Black Americans are still oppressed; they absolutely aren't, at least in most parts of the country. Deep south, sure, there are still some nuts down there, but the majority of the country doesn't give a flying mouse turd what color people are anymore as long as they are decent humans and are contributing to society. DEI programs actually give them an advantage in many areas of the country.
You implied I had an easier life than most Black people just because of the color of my skin, which is pure dogshit. There are plenty of white people who start out with nothing and work their way up, and that opportunity is there for any Black American as well. They are not held back by anyone these days except their own culture who many times demonizes them for wanting to improve themselves. They are also severely hindered by their own race constantly killing each other, but you don't bother mentioning that, either.
So again they can enjoy their day, as they should, but stop pretending things are still so miserable for them. They aren't, no matter how much bleeding heart lunatics like you need to pretend they are to make yourself feel like you're a good dude or something by going to bat for them. It's so painfully transparent and stupid, you just make yourself look like a total cuck.
To act as if we’re completely removed from any racial prejudice in this country is kind of crazy. I get the argument that none of us were alive during slave times, but it’s not like the end of slavery is when things became equal.
The 13th amendment was written so that America could continue to run slavery in this country literally behind closed doors. Our current president is the one who wrote the Crime Bill that started the mass incarceration of these for-profit prisons so we’re not as disassociated with that ugly part of our past as you may wish we were. [Reply]
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
To act as if we’re completely removed from any racial prejudice in this country is kind of crazy. I get the argument that none of us were alive during slave times, but it’s not like the end of slavery is when things became equal.
The 13th amendment was written so that America could continue to run slavery in this country literally behind closed doors. Our current president is the one who wrote the Crime Bill that started the mass incarceration of these for-profit prisons so we’re not as disassociated with that ugly part of our past as you may wish we were.
I never said we were completely removed, but we are nowhere near at the level where some people pretend we are, especially amongst the general population. Most of us just want to get along with everyone and have peace in society. Hell, go to the Middle East, China or Russia if you want to see what racism is. We have made incredible strides here, and I'm not sure how much more we can do or how much harder things can be pushed to make people happy. [Reply]
You seem to be unaware that the North also kept slaves and also treated black people like shit. Shit... it wasn't abolished in CT. until 1848.
Chances are astronomical that your ancestors treated black people like shit. On the off chance that they were angelic and saintly... the post you replied to stated "the average white person whose family has been in the US for a while".
So if they were as highly evolved and enlightened as you are (LMFAO) then they weren't "the average..." and it didn't apply to them. [Reply]
The slavery that persists today isn’t enforced by our government. Literally everyone except the assholes who profit off of it agree it is highly unethical. We’re doing everything in our power to stop it.
I just don’t know what more you want to hear about the situation..?
Valid point that I have a counter argument to but would derail this thread. I'll just put it this way, governments all over the world are complicit in slavery.
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
To act as if we’re completely removed from any racial prejudice in this country is kind of crazy. I get the argument that none of us were alive during slave times, but it’s not like the end of slavery is when things became equal.
There is no non-homogenous society on Earth that exist without racial prejudice, that's a pipe dream. And I would argue the US is actually in the better half of the scale towards the top.
Evidence? More people immigrate here than to any other country in the world every single year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Valid point that I have a counter argument to but would derail this thread. I'll just put it this way, governments all over the world are complicit in slavery.
But to your point, its not legal.
Thank you. I assume you’re referring to the border SNAFU you mentioned earlier.
In either case I am cool with leaving the convo here.
I would agree that world governments are most likely complicit. Lots of money changing hands in government agencies, too much for me to assume the best from the ones getting their palms greased. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
There is no non-homogenous society on Earth that exist without racial prejudice, that's a pipe dream. And I would argue the US is actually in the better half of the scale towards the top.
Evidence? More people immigrate here than to any other country in the world every single year.
There’s a difference between racial prejudice and systemic oppression. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
You think systematic oppressions still exist in the US?
The part you intentionally removed from the post you quoted from me should explain it a little more. I think you know that or you wouldn’t have taken the time to remove it from your discussion. [Reply]
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
The part you intentionally removed from the post you quoted from me should explain it a little more. I think you know that or you wouldn’t have taken the time to remove it from your discussion.
No, actually it doesn't answer my question. I asked you a simple question, do you think right now that systematic oppression of black people exist in the US? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
No, actually it doesn't answer my question. I asked you a simple question, do you think right now that systematic oppression of black people exist in the US?
Of course I do. The prisons are filled with non violent drug offenders still to this day because of that crime bill that Biden introduced to this country in 94. Those prisoners have children living back in the ghettos (places that were built by the redlining system put in place by our real estate markets) with a lack of funding to their schooling systems that have become part of the school to prison pipeline. Many more systems in place if you wanted to do some of your own research as well. [Reply]