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Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Maybe, no matter who is doing the fighting or all 3 sides are involved there are going to be a lot of bodies.
Had not heard this thoery, I like it a lot! This would be perfect timing considering if Jon retakes the north/river lands with the Vale at his side, no one could stop him from marching south.
Meanwhile Danny lands in Dorn, and before both sides clash... Either white walkers attack or Jons blood line is revealed [Reply]
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
That leaves Dorne who hates the Lannisters and The Vale as the only two kingdoms unbloodied and Baelish isn't on anybodies side but his own.
I think he is on Sansas side, I really think he love her and he didn't know who the real Ramsey's was. He knew he needed her there to get th crowns permission to march without question. And he is going to turn out, just.a bad guess [Reply]
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
That leaves Dorne who hates the Lannisters and The Vale as the only two kingdoms unbloodied and Baelish isn't on anybodies side but his own.
Yeah, it's not smart politics, but if Cersei just recently learned her child was murdered by his wife's family, I think she'd me a mushroom cloud-layin mutha. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
If you read the books then you know Sansa was a lot tougher, smarter in the books that she has been portrayed in the series up to this point.
And Cersi was a way less sympathetic in the book than she has been portrayed in the TV series.
I actually remember book Sansa being much more naive than her tv counterpart. She's like the prototypical Disney princess at the start and just continues being monumentally clueless for the longest time. Though not so much as her mother. Giving her Jeyne Poole's storyline (IIRC Ramsay marries her as fake arya) from the book actually allowed them to mature her much more effectively.
IMO the sansa chapters in the books are some of the worst to slog through until she starts to wise up. Even worse than catelyn, and she gives dany a run for her money in terms of 'oh God I have to read another chapter with her??'
On the other hand yes book Cersei is nigh on irredeemable, to the point where Jamie abandons her, though who knows what happens in book 6.
TV Cersei is definitely setting up the Tyrells. I don't think the queen of thorns lasts much longer than Kevan. Don't see Cersei dying this season, and don't see anyone but Arya killing her. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
I dunno. Doesn't sound dramatic enough for GoT. I'm subscribing to the theory that the Sparrow told Tommen that the Tyrells had Joffrey killed, so now it's game on.
I would like this theory to play out. Is the theory that Sir Loras told him this information? Or someone else? [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
I actually remember book Sansa being much more naive than her tv counterpart. She's like the prototypical Disney princess at the start and just continues being monumentally clueless for the longest time. Though not so much as her mother. Giving her Jeyne Poole's storyline (IIRC Ramsay marries her as fake arya) from the book actually allowed them to mature her much more effectively.
IMO the sansa chapters in the books are some of the worst to slog through until she starts to wise up. Even worse than catelyn, and she gives dany a run for her money in terms of 'oh God I have to read another chapter with her??'
On the other hand yes book Cersei is nigh on irredeemable, to the point where Jamie abandons her, though who knows what happens in book 6.
TV Cersei is definitely setting up the Tyrells. I don't think the queen of thorns lasts much longer than Kevan. Don't see Cersei dying this season, and don't see anyone but Arya killing her.
I'm thinking the "Don't tell anyone what I'm about to tell you" angle is the Sparrow putting their (Lannister/Tyrell) chess pieces where he wants them, and Cersei will be Cersei. [Reply]
Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan:
I'm thinking the "Don't tell anyone what I'm about to tell you" angle is the Sparrow putting their (Lannister/Tyrell) chess pieces where he wants them, and Cersei will be Cersei.
Yep. He knows they hate each other and he knows that Cersei can't control herself. [Reply]
I'm hoping that Cersei and Tommen die, the throne goes to the Martells, and Jaime redeems the Lannister name by helping the Starks take back the north. Then in Season 7 they'll all unite to defeat the White Walkers.
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
I think he is on Sansas side, I really think he love her and he didn't know who the real Ramsey's was. He knew he needed her there to get th crowns permission to march without question. And he is going to turn out, just.a bad guess
That is one of his motivations, yes. The other is to see the high nobility disgraced and out of power or dead so he can take their place. Baelish's twin motivations are love and envy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRichard:
I would like this theory to play out. Is the theory that Sir Loras told him this information? Or someone else?
There are many sub-theories. Mine would be Littlefinger sabotaging somehow. I don't think Loras would betray his family. Plus we never had any visibility to him having knowledge of the scheme. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
There are many sub-theories. Mine would be Littlefinger sabotaging somehow. I don't think Loras would betray his family. Plus we never had any visibility to him having knowledge of the scheme.
If it would cause chaos. Expect Littlefinger to be behind it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Gravedigger:
I'm hoping that Cersei and Tommen die, the throne goes to the Martells, and Jaime redeems the Lannister name by helping the Starks take back the north. Then in Season 7 they'll all unite to defeat the White Walkers.
Won't happen, but I'd like it if it did.
Martells? Do you mean Tyrells? Can't imagine wanting those Sand Snakes in charge. (Although would be an upgrade over Lannisters.) [Reply]
