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O.city 11:01 AM 03-01-2023
Figured we could get one of these going as well.

Who's some guys we like, would like to see in KC?
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The Franchise 11:46 AM 03-18-2023
Hunt isn’t coming back. The day he retires from the league…it’s going to be glorious. Until people start talking about how he’s going to come back out of retirement to play for the Chiefs again.
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JPH83 11:51 AM 03-18-2023
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
What is the obsession with Clowney?

Guy is trash.

McKinnon and Kareem Hunt could be RB adds. A’Shawn Robinson and Gaines make sense for DL. I think D-Hop is a legitimate consideration but Veach is calling Arizona’s bluff right now. 3rd qb might be a FA or trade add (Foles for a 7th for instance).

I don’t expect many more additions leading up to the draft.
Clowney's not trash. He's an OK pass rusher and very good against the run, he's also pretty versatile. I could absolutely see him working great for Spags. He's just probably too expensive and not as important as another DT or WR.
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BigRedChief 11:55 AM 03-18-2023
Originally Posted by JohnnyV13:
Look, my guess is the Chiefs probably have a very detailed model of free agency, built by analytics nerds that use an internal metric something like AV (approximate value)...but instead of rated by "analysts" on PFF or ESPN, they use their scouting staff for those evaluations.

I bet Clark Hunt is all over this kind of thing. Remember, he's a finance guy, his first job out of school was working for Goldman Sachs and he tried to launch a hedge fund before he became "chairman." Building economic math models is what hedge fund guys do.

I bet a lot of front offices have built something similar, but what's unusual about the Chiefs is they're just damned disciplined in how to stick to their efficiency evaluations of when they're paying too much for the expected value.

I also suspect they're built an analytical profile of players likely to produce in FA using performance data/evaluations going back to the beginning of FA. If we could look at their "model" to identify good FA investments it would probably be something like this:

1) age 25-28
2) emerging production
3) limited injury history
4) middle round draft history
5) poor skillset fit with prior team/or coaching instability

I'd also expect it's got a clear idea of AV/dollar on the open market, and probably further breakdowns of average AV/dollar by position.
sweet analysis. I’m stealing. I mean borrowing.
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Dunerdr 12:24 PM 03-18-2023
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Hunt isn’t coming back. The day he retires from the league…it’s going to be glorious. Until people start talking about how he’s going to come back out of retirement to play for the Chiefs again.
Ok, ow do Justin Houston for the people in the back.
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Mosbonian 12:38 PM 03-18-2023
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Ok, ow do Justin Houston for the people in the back.
Yeah...I don't get the people who want to see him come back and get a ring.
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RealSNR 01:37 PM 03-18-2023
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Ok, ow do Justin Houston for the people in the back.
Justin Houston left because of money. There exists a scenario where he also comes back because the money is right for him. It's very unlikely to happen, but it's possible.

Kareem Hunt is an actual impossibility. The team said so publicly. He will never be a Chief ever again. Ever. Again. End of story.
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Dunerdr 02:10 PM 03-18-2023
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Justin Houston left because of money. There exists a scenario where he also comes back because the money is right for him. It's very unlikely to happen, but it's possible.

Kareem Hunt is an actual impossibility. The team said so publicly. He will never be a Chief ever again. Ever. Again. End of story.
He’s been brought up 100x every offseason since he walked away. With absolutely zero smoke about him coming back or even interest in it.
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smithandrew051 02:11 PM 03-18-2023
Greg Gaines to Tampa
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02:12 PM 03-18-2023

Source: Former #Rams DT Greg Gaines has agreed to terms with the #Bucs.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 18, 2023

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staylor26 02:15 PM 03-18-2023
Motherfucker
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chiefforlife 02:16 PM 03-18-2023
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:

Damn! I really thought he was a possibility.
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RunKC 02:22 PM 03-18-2023
This is getting sad

…………. pic.twitter.com/xjmhzN2plw

— Mecole Hardman Jr. (@MecoleHardman4) March 18, 2023

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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02:23 PM 03-18-2023
Come on back Mecole, we welcome you with open arms
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Skyy God 02:27 PM 03-18-2023
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
Come on back Mecole, we welcome you with open arms
Rehabbing his value via a 1 year, incentive-laden deal isn’t the worst idea for both sides.
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chiefforlife 02:30 PM 03-18-2023
Originally Posted by Cave Johnson:
Rehabbing his value via a 1 year, incentive-laden deal isn’t the worst idea for both sides.
His value to a team has to be highest with the Chiefs. Andy knows exactly what he can do and how to deploy him.

Coming off a down year and injury isnt the time to hit free agency. I see him coming back and would welcome him.
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