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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Cornell Powell Thread*****
htismaqe 01:53 PM 05-06-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Huh. I was told you can’t get elite caliber athletes with production after the first rd :-)
Well, he didn't have a ton of production. That's why he fell.

You're trying way too hard dude. You should probably quit while you're not too far behind.
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Skyy God 01:55 PM 05-06-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Well, he didn't have a ton of production. That's why he fell.

You're trying way too hard dude. You should probably quit while you're not too far behind.
He produced in 2020.
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htismaqe 02:04 PM 05-06-2021
Originally Posted by Cave Johnson:
He produced in 2020.
He didn't though.

Through the first 4 games of the season, he had 4 games with exactly 2 receptions in each game.

He had 4 receptions against GTech in Week 5. He followed that up with 2 catches against Syracuse.

He broke out in week 7 against BC with 11 catches. And followed that up with 6 catches each against ND and Pitt. He had 4 catches in each of the last 2 games of the regular season.

He finished the season with 53 catches, HALF of which basically came in just 3 games.

That's exactly why he fell. He didn't have anything close to consistent production.
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RunKC 02:05 PM 05-06-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Well, he didn't have a ton of production. That's why he fell.

You're trying way too hard dude. You should probably quit while you're not too far behind.
He had just under 900 yards, 7 TD’s and over 16 YPC avg in 2020 on a team with Amari Rodgers and likely other top 100 WR’s.

He didn’t get a ton of stats previously bc the team had guys like Tee Higgins ahead of him.

That’s why he fell. It’s great value
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htismaqe 02:06 PM 05-06-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He had just under 900 yards, 7 TD’s and over 16 YPC avg in 2020 on a team with Amari Rodgers and likely other top 100 WR’s.

He didn’t get a ton of stats previously bc the team had guys like Tee Higgins ahead of him.

That’s why he fell. It’s great value
It absolutely is great value.

What you're missing is that the guy had 93 career receptions. He had ONE THIRD of his career production in just 3 games this past season.

He wasn't consistently productive and that's why he fell.
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staylor26 02:18 PM 05-06-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He had just under 900 yards, 7 TD’s and over 16 YPC avg in 2020 on a team with Amari Rodgers and likely other top 100 WR’s.

He didn’t get a ton of stats previously bc the team had guys like Tee Higgins ahead of him.

That’s why he fell. It’s great value
I think you’re having trouble understanding the word “elite”.
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staylor26 01:57 PM 05-06-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Huh. I was told you can’t get elite caliber athletes with production after the first rd :-)
:-)

He was not productive at all until the last several games of his career. Lack of production throughout his career is literally the biggest knock on him.

Also, his athleticism is above average, but not “elite”. I’m not using that word as lightly as you are.
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staylor26 02:03 PM 05-06-2021
Also, what I said was you don’t get elite production AND elite athleticism/measurables outside of the 1st.

1. That doesn’t mean there aren’t rare exceptions to the rule.

2. That doesn’t mean you can’t get guys that have both production and athleticism. I’m specifically talking about elite levels for both.
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RunKC 02:10 PM 05-06-2021
Also the guy is similar to Chris Conley in terms of body strength and not ideal lateral agility (3 cone) but the big difference I see is his route running ability.

He already looks like our 2nd best router runner at the WR position. That’s kinda sad, but Hardman needs work there and Robinson just isn’t very good
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htismaqe 02:12 PM 05-06-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Also the guy is similar to Chris Conley in terms of body strength and not ideal lateral agility (3 cone) but the big difference I see is his route running ability.

He already looks like our 2nd best router runner at the WR position. That’s kinda sad, but Hardman needs work there and Robinson just isn’t very good
So basically he's like Nick Bolton only at WR.

:-)
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htismaqe 02:45 PM 05-06-2021
https://www.nfl.com/news/afc-west-dr...aiders-perplex

Biggest Sleeper:
Kansas City Chiefs
Cornell Powell
Clemson · WR
Draft slot: Round 5, No. 181 overall

There might not be a better situation for a fifth-round receiver to enter into. No. 1, Powell's going to be catching passes from arguably the best quarterback in the league in one of the most explosive offenses in the league. No. 2, Andy Reid is going to need someone to step up as a complementary target to Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce and Co. Powell has a shot to be that guy as Kansas City looks to replace free-agent departure Sammy Watkins. He struggled to earn playing time during his first four years with the Tigers when he was buried on the depth chart behind future NFL draft picks like Mike Williams and Tee Higgins, among others, but he shined when he finally got his opportunity in 2020 (53 catches for 882 yards, seven TDs). This is a player on the rise.

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Kansas City spent a good chunk of its draft capital to acquire Orlando Brown from the Ravens last month, filling a gaping hole at left tackle. Reminder: We’re not factoring pre-draft trades into the grades in this exercise. So, the Chiefs have a relatively small haul to evaluate, but it's a punchy one. I mean, when Bolton strikes you, it's not going to feel good. He makes the defense better, without question, but the biggest need for the team was defensive end, and there was a good one still on the board in Wake Forest’s Carlos Basham, who went to the Bills a few picks later. Perhaps the Chiefs will eventually be able to unlock the potential of Kaindoh to fill that D-line void, something Florida State was unable to do for the former five-star recruit. The selections we liked the most here were the offensive linemen. Humphrey is an excellent fit for the rebuilt unit, and I expect we’ll be calling Smith, chosen with the third-to-last pick of the sixth round, a steal a few years from now. Powell is a rising talent who could very well outperform his draft slotting, as well. Andy Reid and Brett Veach did a solid job of finding value with their six picks.
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The Franchise 02:54 PM 05-06-2021
One of my favorite picks of the draft.
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Hoover 03:00 PM 05-06-2021
I'm excited to have a normal offseason where these guys can work on getting on the same page. Hardman has a huge opportunity. Same with Powell. Get in go to work.
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Dante84 03:14 PM 05-06-2021
Man, if Hardman can mature and put it together, next year really will be a blast.
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RealSNR 05:34 PM 05-06-2021
Everybody going, “lol too old to develop” with this guy.

I’m sure guys have entered the league as 23+ year olds before and got better and improved from nothing into something. Odds are against him, but it can’t be unheard of
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