Y'all want to ride with Smith for another year or give Morris a chance? Because there's probably several good to decent prospects who likely will be there when the Chiefs pick. [Reply]
I feel like OTs are such a crapshoot. Every year there are sure things bust and traits guys who turn into excellent linemen. How does one draft them effectively?
Is this just a position where we regularly fill from FA just to get adequate known quantities until Patrick slows down?
Take Wanya as an example: he has every trait you could want. So do you go invest in another traits guy like Fisher? I guess if they both work out, you can let Taylor go. I just have a hard time getting comfy spending big draft capital on one when outcomes feel so volatile. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I think the fanbase is so caught up on the need at WR that we understate the importance of an LT. It's one of the most critical positions on the team and one of the most difficult to adequately fill, especially long-term. I fully support a move-up for an LT all day over worrying about WRs. I would not be exaggerating if I said that I don't care if Veach waits until round 3 to address WR if it means getting an LT.
Now, that doesn't mean I support reaching or chancing it on an LT if we stay at 32 and bypass better talent at another position, which is likely to be WR or CB in this draft.
Absolutely THIS! I have changed my mind because I was ALL in on Brian Thomas Jr. or Xavier Worthy. NOW, I want us to move up to 19 with the Rams and take Troy Fautanu. This is 5 years of a protector of our beloved Mahomes blind side. I hope this is the direction Veach goes.:-) I will admit that I hate to loose the draft picks there but, for the team, it is the best option. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58:
Something about that 4th overall pick
So, out of the top 10 Highest paid tackles the ones drafted in 1st round:
1) 13th pick
2) 4th pick
3) 4th pick
4) 109th pick
5) 14th pick
6) 4th pick
7) 6th pick
8) 35th pick
9) 6th pick
10) 32nd pick
You end up missing some of the best tackles in the NFL because they are still on rookie deals.
i.e.
Charles Cross 1 #9
Rashawn Slater 1 #13
Christian Darrisaw 1 #23
Bernhard Raimann 3 # 77
Tristan Wirfs (1 #13) could play LT easily
Yeah, it's rare to get that guy outside the top 13, but it happens from time to time. That's why you have to gauge it and see. If one of the top 3 get to 15, you have to consider that move, else you're probably looking at continuing to draft projects and hope. [Reply]
I'd be super in on trading up for an OT, but I don't think it's gonna work out.
Fautanu, Fashanu and Mims are all going really high IMO. Couple of elite pass-protecting LTs (literally who cares about run blocking at this point, other than Harbaugh - they can have Fuaga) and an otherwordly size/athlete prospect.
Fautanu I don't see getting past 14, and the Jets would be dumb to pass on him. He'd be my guy but that's too rich. Late teens is the floor for the other 2 IMO. Maybe if the Rams wanna acquire more picks.
Hard pass on Guyton and Latham. Very overrated groupthink prospects IMO. And then the other guys I'd stay put at 32 and either take and hope for the best, or just go to another position. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Stryker:
Absolutely THIS! I have changed my mind because I was ALL in on Brian Thomas Jr. or Xavier Worthy. NOW, I want us to move up to 19 with the Rams and take Troy Fautanu. This is 5 years of a protector of our beloved Mahomes blind side. I hope this is the direction Veach goes.:-) I will admit that I hate to loose the draft picks there but, for the team, it is the best option.
Could work Kupp into that trade. Get our LT and still a stud WR. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
The bigger problem is that the 2nd tier of tackles might be picked through by the time KC drafts at the end of the 2nd. I consider the 2nd tier to be: Morgan (might be guard), Suamataia, Fisher, Paul and the kid from Yale who was injured most of the season and didn't face great competition.
This absolutely. It’s hard to find a great LT later and you see that all the time with WRs. If mims get to the lions pick, I hope we move to get Mims if he’s there and trade with the lions to select Mims. I don’t see Mims getting past the ravens. [Reply]
FWIW, Eric Edholm at nfl.com updated his top 100 prospects (it apparently includes insight from teams/scouts that he has spoken to). With respect to tackles, he has the following:
6. Alt
13. Latham
15 Fautanu
17 Fuaga
19 Fashanu
20 Mims
23 Guyton
34 Morgan (Guard)
42 Suamataia
70 Paul
72 Fisher
89 Christian Jones
94 Amagadje
97 Foster [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
FWIW, Eric Edholm at nfl.com updated his top 100 prospects (it apparently includes insight from teams/scouts that he has spoken to). With respect to tackles, he has the following:
6. Alt
13. Latham
15 Fautanu
17 Fuaga
19 Fashanu
20 Mims
23 Guyton
34 Morgan (Guard)
42 Suamataia
70 Paul
72 Fisher
89 Christian Jones
94 Amagadje
97 Foster
That seems pretty damn spot on to me. I think he has Amegadjie a bit low, but everyone else seems to be in the proper ballpark. I'd be inclined to put Amegadjie right up there with Paul and Fisher, but I recognize that I'm weighing skills more and risk less with that. [Reply]
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I'm starting to settle on Kingsley in the 1st with a trade up for a WR in the 2nd, barring a trade up in the 1st or Adonai Mitchell making it to 32. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I'm starting to settle on Kingsley in the 1st with a trade up for a WR in the 2nd, barring a trade up in the 1st or Adonai Mitchell making it to 32.
Really like Kingsley for a bit of a developmental guy, but fuck I cant really do Dan Harms. He's okay solo, but I hate listening to him and Ryan slobber all over each other. RGR used to be one of my favorites. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Really like Kingsley for a bit of a developmental guy, but fuck I cant really do Dan Harms. He's okay solo, but I hate listening to him and Ryan slobber all over each other. RGR used to be one of my favorites.
It's just Harms in that video FYI.
I don't mind him, but I don't watch anything with Ryan. [Reply]
