Does this announcer for LSU - MU not realize that both teams are Tigers? Geeze, what fail as he just keeps talking tigers this and tigers that. Which ones dipshit? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
What the hell happened with MU hoops? They were a pretty decent team most of the year
Cuonzo Martin doesn’t get the most out of players. It’s painful watching him compared to the coach across the state line in Kansas. Self’s teams always show immense growth throughout the season. Missouri has never shown much improvement in any given season under Martin.
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Cuonzo Martin doesn’t get the most out of players. It’s painful watching him compared to the coach across the state line in Kansas. Self’s teams always show immense growth throughout the season. Missouri has never shown much improvement in any given season under Martin.
Next year is going to be ugly.
That's pretty much what hes been his whole career. I'm not a Mizzou fan so I dont know what the expectations were going in obviously hes an upgrade over the last coach though thats not saying much. From an outsider point of view this is what it's pretty much been for you guys post Norm Stewart. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
That's pretty much what hes been his whole career. I'm not a Mizzou fan so I dont know what the expectations were going in obviously hes an upgrade over the last coach though thats not saying much. From an outsider point of view this is what it's pretty much been for you guys post Norm Stewart.
The expectation with a healthy and senior laden team was being much improved and hopefully towards the top of the SEC. They are admittedly improved, but not as much as I would have hoped and they seem to have regressed throughout late in the season. It is what it is, he’s stuck here even longer now due to making the tournament and our brilliant AD is even looking into extending Cuonzo Martin. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
The expectation with a healthy and senior laden team was being much improved and hopefully towards the top of the SEC. They are admittedly improved, but not as much as I would have hoped and they seem to have regressed throughout late in the season. It is what it is, he’s stuck here even longer now due to making the tournament and our brilliant AD is even looking into extending Cuonzo Martin.
Hes what, $3million a year? will they up that? [Reply]
Cuonzo just isn't cut out for this job. Recruiting in STL, the one thing he's supposed to be good at, hasn't happened. He actually seems to be really fucking bad as a recruiter and really fucking bad as a coach too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Cuonzo just isn't cut out for this job. Recruiting in STL, the one thing he's supposed to be good at, hasn't happened. He actually seems to be really ****ing bad as a recruiter and really ****ing bad as a coach too.
I think you can somewhat get by if you’re good at either recruiting or coaching/Xs and Os, but when you’re not particularly good at either one? CM gets a pass more than he probably should because he’s squeaky clean and he’s a good mentor to his players.
The problem is that’s all you hear about him. You never see negative press, just some article titled something like “It’s About More Than Basketball With Cuonzo Martin”. The funny thing is, I struggle to see similar statements around Self, Calipari, Williams, etc. It’s about whether they win or lose and not much more. I guess you can’t expect that much at Missouri, but you also probably shouldn’t pay over $3 million a year for a motivational speaker. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
I think you can somewhat get by if you’re good at either recruiting or coaching/Xs and Os, but when you’re not particularly good at either one? CM gets a pass more than he probably should because he’s squeaky clean and he’s a good mentor to his players.
The problem is that’s all you hear about him. You never see negative press, just some article titled something like “It’s About More Than Basketball With Cuonzo Martin”. The funny thing is, I struggle to see similar statements around Self, Calipari, Williams, etc. It’s about whether they win or lose and not much more. I guess you can’t expect that much at Missouri, but you also probably shouldn’t pay over $3 million a year for a motivational speaker.
God, I remember being so excited for him his first year here. The Porters, Tilmon, Harris. That 2017 class was by far the best class MU basketball has ever had and we just got rid of the worst coach to ever coach a power 5 conference.
It all comes crumbling down very quickly and becomes extremely obvious that Martin had very little to do with the class and Michael Porter was 99% responsible for recruiting those guys.
Since then he's had a bunch of classes that resemble a Kim Anderson recruiting job and then you have the 2020 class, 163rd in the country!
Good fucking God.
He could have at least used the momentum from 2017 to build something. He was supposed to get STL back and be able to talk to those kids, but from 2018-2021 he has 3 STL commits and has lost a ton of kids to other schools. Maybe Drink could teach him a thing or 2 about recruiting. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
God, I remember being so excited for him his first year here. The Porters, Tilmon, Harris. That 2017 class was by far the best class MU basketball has ever had and we just got rid of the worst coach to ever coach a power 5 conference.
It all comes crumbling down very quickly and becomes extremely obvious that Martin had very little to do with the class and Michael Porter was 99% responsible for recruiting those guys.
Since then he's had a bunch of classes that resemble a Kim Anderson recruiting job and then you have the 2020 class, 163rd in the country!
Good fucking God.
He could have at least used the momentum from 2017 to build something. He was supposed to get STL back and be able to talk to those kids, but from 2018-2021 he has 3 STL commits and has lost a ton of kids to other schools. Maybe Drink could teach him a thing or 2 about recruiting.
It started to slide when he lost Liddell to Ohio State. Everything was positive until that point. I think it cost him major momentum in St. Louis.
He also took a bunch of very questionable players and ran off a lot of guys with talent. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
It started to slide when he lost Liddell to Ohio State. Everything was positive until that point. I think it cost him major momentum in St. Louis.
He also took a bunch of very questionable players and ran off a lot of guys with talent.
That second part.
I don’t think we’d be in terrible shape right now if he’d managed to keep Jackson and McKinney around. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Cuonzo just isn't cut out for this job. Recruiting in STL, the one thing he's supposed to be good at, hasn't happened. He actually seems to be really fucking bad as a recruiter and really fucking bad as a coach too.
