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In58men 06:51 PM 09-12-2022
I just hope you motherfuckers are loud. I’ll have my surround sound on.
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MarkDavis'Haircut 10:23 PM 09-12-2022
Los Angeles Times headline says Herbert is the best QB in the NFL.

Please destroy this 16-17 fraud.

I am tired of the hyperbole. He has done nothing to earn the love affair.

Mahomes has.
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RaidersOftheCellar 11:18 PM 09-12-2022
Originally Posted by Carr4MVP:
Los Angeles Times headline says Herbert is the best QB in the NFL.

Please destroy this 16-17 fraud.

I am tired of the hyperbole. He has done nothing to earn the love affair.

Mahomes has.
He was damn impressive in that Raiders-Chargers game last year. Still came up short of course.

But yeah, let’s let him win something before crowning him anything but a quality young QB.
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Hammock Parties 03:48 PM 09-13-2022
BOWESHOW

Thursday Night Football's drum honoree pic.twitter.com/FqhzTtevZX

— Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) September 13, 2022

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raybec 4 04:20 PM 09-13-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
BOWESHOW

Riverside Sonic open for bidness
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Coochie liquor 03:48 PM 09-13-2022
John Hussey is the ref. Same guy from Bengals week 17, and Bills 13 seconds.
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Dawson 04:08 PM 09-13-2022
Raiders played badly. Carr was awful and they still had a chance to win the game late. Chiefs are gonna roll San Diego...45-17
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T-post Tom 04:11 PM 09-13-2022
Only slight worry is the Mack/Bosa combo. O Line needs to keep Mahomes upright. OTs will be tested. Prediction: Chiefs 31 Dolts 24
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Tribal Warfare 04:13 PM 09-13-2022
22 years straight the Chargers are the best team in the AFC West/Media
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Hammock Parties 04:15 PM 09-13-2022

Source: #Chargers are preparing for TNF @ #Chiefs as if 5x Pro Bowl WR Keenan Allen won’t play.

I’m told “given that it’s a hamstring and such a short turnaround, it would be unlikely.” Source adds that it is “plausible he could be a go.”

— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) September 13, 2022

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BWillie 04:21 PM 09-13-2022
The Chargers were 4th in the league in 4th down % last year while being 3rd in attempts. Yet all we hear about is how dumb he was for being so aggressive. Of course the simpletons will always cite some blasphemy like "left points on the table" and other such nonsense but I love how Staley coaches at least strategically. You are going to win some games going for it so often on 4th down, and you are going to lose some games. The focus shouldn't be the result because that will not be statistically significant one way or another in the short term, but in the aggregate it will yield more expected points, higher win percentage when used effectively. You SHOULDN'T coach to keep your job or to appease results oriented fans. You call the game based on the appropriate strategy at each given point to maximize your win percentage probability.
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raybec 4 04:28 PM 09-13-2022
Originally Posted by BWillie:
The Chargers were 4th in the league in 4th down % last year while being 3rd in attempts. Yet all we hear about is how dumb he was for being so aggressive. Of course the simpletons will always cite some blasphemy like "left points on the table" and other such nonsense but I love how Staley coaches at least strategically. You are going to win some games going for it so often on 4th down, and you are going to lose some games. The focus shouldn't be the result because that will not be statistically significant one way or another in the short term, but in the aggregate it will yield more expected points, higher win percentage when used effectively. You SHOULDN'T coach to keep your job or to appease results oriented fans. You call the game based on the appropriate strategy at each given point to maximize your win percentage probability.
So, are you saying the coach shouldn't make decisions based on what the results will possibly be? I believe that's exactly what they should do. I think they shouldn't coach with the mindset of "If this works I'll be on everyone's top ten list this week!"
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RunKC 04:30 PM 09-13-2022
One of the few teams I’m worried about. Herbert is legit and Bosa/Mack look like an elite pass rushing duo.

Brown Jr needs to earn his money in this one
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DRM08 04:36 PM 09-13-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
One of the few teams I’m worried about. Herbert is legit and Bosa/Mack look like an elite pass rushing duo.

Brown Jr needs to earn his money in this one
Derwin James is awesome as well. Chargers roster is pretty dang loaded. I hope the Chiefs will bring a very sharp game to the table.
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BWillie 04:32 PM 09-13-2022
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
So, are you saying the coach shouldn't make decisions based on what the results will possibly be? I believe that's exactly what they should do. I think they shouldn't coach with the mindset of "If this works I'll be on everyone's top ten list this week!"
As far as whether to go for it on 4th down or kick a FG or punt, the coach should delegate such decisions to a statistical analyst to determine the best decision to achieve the highest win probability. The best leaders and CEOs understand they don't know everything and know when to delegate accordingly.

Imagine I had QQ and got it all in preflop vs AK. I'm a very slight favorite. Over the course of 20 hands I could run bad. I could lose 16 out of 20. If I change my future strategy due to statistical nuance, I would be making a bad decision. A feel based decison not sound in logic.

Furthermore, aggressive play calling on 4th down and in general benefits teams who perform well offensively...and also benefit when playing another very efficient team. If you are playing the Bears or something, you can probably dial it down. These things can all be accounted for in a win probability analysis.
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