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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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PAChiefsGuy 09:42 AM 04-09-2020
Got a bad feeling NFL season is going to see stadiums with hardly any fans
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petegz28 09:42 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
And re-open the haircut places.
Yes haircuts by appointment only type thing
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Bearcat 09:43 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Are you taking into account how much business they need to bring in to make a profit?

Theres no point in opening back up if restrictions left in place mean they are operating at a loss. They'll just remain closed.
Yeah, some restaurants around here are surviving off carryout and delivery while others have ended up closing due to lack of volume.... low margin businesses need volume.
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FloridaMan88 09:43 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Call me crazy, but I'd like to have a much, MUCH better idea of who actually has this virus and is asymptomatic before letting them all loose on society again.
Or keep the 80 million or so Americans in the high risk group under social distancing measures and let everyone else return to normal.

Keeping 25% of the population under shelter in place is better than keeping the current 97% of the population under shelter in place as a first step.
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Donger 09:43 AM 04-09-2020
It's not about days, or weeks, or patience. It's about numbers. Opening up without having a clear and demonstrated decline in new case growth would be a very foolish decision.
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OnTheWarpath15 09:45 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Or keep the 80 million or so Americans in the high risk group under social distancing measures and let everyone else return to normal.

Keeping 25% of the population under shelter in place is better than keeping the current 97% of the population under shelter in place as a first step.
LOL if you think only 25% of the population is in the high risk group.
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Mecca 09:46 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Call me crazy, but I'd like to have a much, MUCH better idea of who actually has this virus and is asymptomatic before letting them all loose on society again.
That is way to rational and logical for some that are posting here.
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limested 09:47 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
LOL if you think only 25% of the population is in the high risk group.
He is clueless. You shouldn't waste your time responding to him.
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Mecca 09:47 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
LOL if you think only 25% of the population is in the high risk group.
I don't think he grasps that the American lifestyle means probably 65-70% are in that group and that's being conservative.
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petegz28 09:51 AM 04-09-2020
799 new deaths out of NY today so far
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DaFace 09:52 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Bill Gates is a "medical expert"?
He's an infectious disease expert at least. People still think of him as the Microsoft guy, but he's been working full-time at his Foundation for years now.
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Monticore 09:55 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Yes. Movie theaters could open but limit the numbers of viewers and have them separated out for example
Having to fully disinfect the theatre between shows would be difficult.
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kgrund 09:57 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
It's not about days, or weeks, or patience. It's about numbers. Opening up without having a clear and demonstrated decline in new case growth would be a very foolish decision.
I would argue that only number initially is who has had it. Do we really care if new cases are going up if over 70% of the population has already had it and the most vulnerable are protected in some capacity? We obviously care as lives are at risk, but context in those whole thing is huge. Step #1 going forward: Determine how big of a problem we have.
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BleedingRed 09:57 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
He's an infectious disease expert at least. People still think of him as the Microsoft guy, but he's been working full-time at his Foundation for years now.
That doesn't make him a expert. And some of the stuff he has done in Africa has a questionable record.

Just saying...
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FloridaMan88 09:57 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
LOL if you think only 25% of the population is in the high risk group.
If you look at the recent data for the COVID-19 deaths in New York, 86% of all deaths were among people who had underlying health issues, specifically hypertension and diabetes. (Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/2960151001/)

That is a very defined high risk group category.

About 100 million Americans have hypertension and diabetes.

Roughly about 30% of the population have those conditions.

That's still better than having 97% of the population under total social distancing measures.
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