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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Donger 03:00 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
People saying it worked for them or their loved ones???? :-)
You get that that is anecdotal, yes?
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Monticore 03:00 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Reality is people on the ground saying it is working, reality is governments acquiring the drug in massive amounts.

Evidence of it being effective does exist. You choose to wait for a "official" report. Thats fine but claiming there is zero evidence is a outright lie.
Some people on the ground who want media attention are saying it is working.
Posting your success over twitter is not how I would go about if I wanted my results to be respected.
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stumppy 03:00 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
Particularly encouraging.
Oh! Well, look at me being all embarrassed and shit.



:-)
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eDave 03:01 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
People saying it worked for them or their loved ones???? :-)

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petegz28 03:02 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
You get that that is anecdotal, yes?
You get I never said otherwise, yes?
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stumppy 03:02 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Some people on the ground who want media attention are saying it is working.
Posting your success over twitter is not how I would go about if I wanted my results to be respected.
You might say they're looking for the "My Pillow" guy treatment.
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BleedingRed 03:02 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
You get that that is anecdotal, yes?
Still evidence yeah?
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petegz28 03:02 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by eDave:
Okay, they are lying....got it...glad you were here to tell us that. :-)
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DJ's left nut 03:03 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Reality is people on the ground saying it is working, reality is governments acquiring the drug in massive amounts.

Evidence of it being effective does exist. You choose to wait for a "official" report. Thats fine but claiming there is zero evidence is a outright lie.
The same people that will post that video of the crisis actor nurse freaking out in Chicago as proof that hospitals are overwhelmed will shit on any anecdotal testimony from doctors or patients suggesting that this thing may be effective.

The inconsistency is staggering.

Ultimately there's no good faith basis for a healthcare provider to say anything resembling "this is proven effective" because it undoubtedly hasn't been. But to say there's no evidence at all that it could be a viable weapon is equally asinine.

There's some evidence. In the same way witness testimony is evidence in a criminal matter, it's simply a question of weight. Is it DNA all over the crime scene? No, no it is not, but it's not nothing.

Anyone wanting to just slam the door on this right this very second is being little more than an ideologue. There is absolutely a good faith basis to believe this is worth continued study and that it MAY yield positive outcomes.
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Donger 03:03 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
You get I never said otherwise, yes?
I don't know if you have or haven't. So, you want people to start taking this base don anecdotal evidence, is that correct?
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Monticore 03:03 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Still evidence yeah?
You want you medical evidence the same way you get your Alien abduction news?
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BleedingRed 03:04 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Some people on the ground who want media attention are saying it is working.
Posting your success over twitter is not how I would go about if I wanted my results to be respected.
I mean it is what it is, sorry these trial are not done. But it's a fluid situation with everything else. Why should this be any different in this thread?
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eDave 03:04 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Okay, they are lying....got it...glad you were here to tell us that. :-)
It's concerning that you needed to be told that.
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Donger 03:04 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Still evidence yeah?
Some people say that they have seen bigfoot. Some people claim that they've been abducted by aliens.
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Donger 03:05 PM 04-08-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
I mean it is what it is, sorry these trial are not done. But it's a fluid situation with everything else. Why should this be any different in this thread?
There's been a trial ongoing in NY for over two weeks. We don't have the results.
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