Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Curious why you think he's more suited to Rt? The guy has the measurables and athleticism for any position. I personally think he needs an off season in a pro weight room and to probably train with Mannywether or someone similar. He's shown nothing in my opinion to think one side would be a better fit than the other. He had no issue getting to his spots just absolutely no idea what to do when he got there. That's mental imo not physical.
Well, since you asked me, I took the liberty of trying to find some information. It didn't take long. It was actually the first website I came across. To be clear, this does not make me think anything, it just verifies what I already thought after seeing the guy try to play LT. Also shows that someone other than me felt the way that I do, before the draft. I'm sure there are many different opinions out there. But you just asked so I figured I'd give you a simple answer. Thus far he is player they are describing.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It's way too early for any of that. You have no idea if he can play LT and neither does anybody else here.
True. In a world of absolutes, it's too early to know anything. I'm just giving my opinion based on what I've seen thus far. I'm sure you and I will be revisiting this in the months to come. And, I hope Im wrong. But, in the event that he does end up playing Right Tackle, instead of LT, that would not necessarily be a bad thing. [Reply]
Yeah I've said it before but for me, Wanya's mass is in his lower body. He has a lower center of gravity. He struggles with his outside shoulder in space. He just looks like a guard to me.
Kingsley on the other hand just looks like a tackle. Right or left doesn't really matter. I don't think he's suited to play guard. [Reply]
Originally Posted by GordonGekko:
Veach & Co. cannot draft tackle, not sure why this is. When I see Wanya Morris out there and how bad he is, I wonder what all of these six/seven figure salary people on the Chiefs staff who are paid to analyze hundreds of hours of video, what they even saw to merit drafting him?? Or Kingsley for that matter where it is even worse as was a second round pick.
In this offseason, Veach & Co. need to really reign it in on the OL and their decisions whether draft or FA or both. We need to build a fortress around Mahomes, especially as he gets older. We DO NOT want to Andrew Luck our #15.
Also the Skyy Moore pick was a complete whiff, he had one good play in the Superbowl and that has been all he has done as a 2nd round pick in his three years here. Just another terrible draft pick by Veach. The Kingsley pick is looking to rival the Skyy Moore pick in pathetic-ness. And let's not even talk about FAU.......
Yeah, let’s not sit here and act like all of those players weren’t slotted pretty close to where they were drafted. Hell, some had Kingsley going at the end of the first. It’s not like they were all scouted as late round picks and Veach is just randomly reaching for players in the first few rounds. It definitely sucks that they haven’t panned out up to this point. But, come on. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TEX:
Well, since you asked me, I took the liberty of trying to find some information. It didn't take long. It was actually the first website I came across. To be clear, this does not make me think anything, it just verifies what I already thought after seeing the guy try to play LT. Also shows that someone other than me felt the way that I do, before the draft. I'm sure there are many different opinions out there. But you just asked so I figured I'd give you a simple answer. Thus far he is player they are describing.
So they think because of his hands he would be a right tackle? Seems more like he’s not a round one prospect so they’re hedging. Fair enough though. I see people wanting to move him to guard all the time. He’s not built like a guard at all imo. And LT and RT aren’t all that different anymore that’s why I asked what made you think that. [Reply]
A ton of the NFLs best OTs gave up a ton of sacks snd pressures in their rookie years…half even struggled in their second year.
Kingsley looked as raw as it gets snd most of us kinda knew that was a factor in why he fell to our pick in the late second (albeit with a small move up) …
The problem wasn’t drafting him, the problem was taking a very raw kid and throwing him out there on an island against the best pass rushers in the NFL (with no help) when he clearly wasn’t close to being ready for that.
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
So they think because of his hands he would be a right tackle? Seems more like he’s not a round one prospect so they’re hedging. Fair enough though. I see people wanting to move him to guard all the time. He’s not built like a guard at all imo. And LT and RT aren’t all that different anymore that’s why I asked what made you think that.
Pass rushers move all over the line now but the guy you can see getting beat is a lot better than the guy you can't see getting beat. You'd still prefer to have the better guy cover the QB's blind side. [Reply]