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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2023 Royals Season Repository Thread***
ChiefsCountry 12:02 AM 01-01-2023


2023 – A new beginning for the Royals. Matt Quatraro era begins. A year to see which of our young players will make up the core going forward. Can Bobby Witt Jr become a superstar SS or will go to the hot corner? Will Brady Singer take the next step forward? Will Salvy be Salvy? Will Big Vin or Pratto take first base? Will they find a position for MJ? Who else emerges from the youth movement? Not to mention the development of the new downtown stadium.

Free Agents/Trades Acquisitions
Jordan Lyles, RHP
Ryan Yarbrough, LHP
Josh Taylor, LHP
Aroldis Chapman, LHP

Top 10 Prospects from Baseball America
1. Gavin Cross, OF
2. Cayden Wallace, 3B
3. Drew Waters, OF
4. Ben Kudrna, RHP
5. Frank Mozzicato, LHP
6. Maikel Garcia, SS
7. Tyler Gentry, OF
8. Nick Loftin, OF/3B
9. Angel Zerpa, LHP
10. Carter Jensen, C
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OKchiefs 11:06 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by DJJasonp:
Last night's game was embarrassing.

I made a comment that if the royals got no-hit by Wacha, it should have an asterisk by it like the dodgers covid-season championship.

This is not a major league line up.

That said, people were probably saying the same thing the year the Astros played all the young guys......but you HAVE to hit on some pitchers here and there.

Who was the last home-grown royal pitcher to pan out as a reliable #1 or #2 starter?
Probably Greinke? Haven’t found a single top of the rotation starter who developed in KC since that piece of shit Dayton Moore was hired.
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BWillie 11:06 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Probably Greinke? Haven’t found a single top of the rotation starter who developed in KC since that piece of shit Dayton Moore was hired.
Yordano Ventura
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OKchiefs 11:08 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Yordano Ventura
Well I guess he’s the one exception, but unfortunately we never really got to see him establish himself as a top of the rotation starter. Can’t blame anyone for that. But still, fuck Dayton Moore.
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Prison Bitch 11:16 AM 05-16-2023
DM won a WS here. That automatically means he was a great hire and a member of our HOF. Not happy with the decline obv but doesn’t detract from winning it all. He had mostly losing seasons but that’s life as a small market. As good as Tampa has been last 15 years they’re still under .500 all time


I highly doubt Picolo ever wins a WS here. I’d bet anything he doesn’t
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Mecca 11:17 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
DM won a WS here. That automatically means he was a great hire and a member of our HOF. Not happy with the decline obv but doesn’t detract from winning it all. He had mostly losing seasons but that’s life as a small market. As good as Tampa has been last 15 years they’re still under .500 all time


I highly doubt Picolo ever wins a WS here. I’d bet anything he doesn’t
Moore getting a WS was pretty obviously blind luck.

At this point I'd be happy if the Royals were just a decent team but yea right.
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ChiefsCountry 11:17 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Well I guess he’s the one exception, but unfortunately we never really got to see him establish himself as a top of the rotation starter. Can’t blame anyone for that. But still, **** Dayton Moore.
Won a World Series dumbfuck
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Mecca 11:18 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Won a World Series dumbfuck
Yes and the 2 winning seasons in like 30 years is ok right?

I'm sorry but the absurd levels of suck this franchise has been at for 99% of the time is pretty laughable, like you'd almost have to try to suck that bad on purpose.
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Prison Bitch 11:23 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Moore getting a WS was pretty obviously blind luck.

At this point I'd be happy if the Royals were just a decent team but yea right.
You can’t get lucky in MLB. The pipeline of development is too long and the rosters are so evenly balanced (your star hitter only comes to the plate every 9x etc). You can draft a Mahomes or Jokich and immediately vault to the top of those sports but obv mlb doesn’t work at all like that

He (1) had the best all time Baseball America prospect list in 2011, (2) made the gutsy Greinke AND Myers deals and (3) had a huge FA offseason in winter 2015.

He absolutely did not luck into that title. No way
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Mecca 11:28 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
You can’t get lucky in MLB. The pipeline of development is too long and the rosters are so evenly balanced (your star hitter only comes to the plate every 9x etc). You can draft a Mahomes or Jokich and immediately vault to the top of those sports but obv mlb doesn’t work at all like that

He (1) had the best all time Baseball America prospect list in 2011, (2) made the gutsy Greinke AND Myers deals and (3) had a huge FA offseason in winter 2015.

He absolutely did not luck into that title. No way
In a way he did because if you actually go through the lists of how championship teams were built, calling up an entire farm system of players at once and having it work out, never happens. All of the pitching failures, somehow getting competent play from Kendrys Morales, Chris Young etc

There was a level of luck to it, it's why when people point at this form of rebuild it's like what happened last time isn't the norm..what's more normal is you find 4-5 guys you keep around to be part of the next wave of guys and you don't really contend until that has happened 3 times.
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Sassy Squatch 11:37 AM 05-16-2023
Yeah, there was a bit of luck involved. But he also made key transactions that were ultimately instrumental in us winning the title. You can simultaneously be incredibly disappointed in how he performed most years and also acknowledge he did have a very good run there for a couple years.
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Mecca 11:41 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Yeah, there was a bit of luck involved. But he also made key transactions that were ultimately instrumental in us winning the title. You can simultaneously be incredibly disappointed in how he performed most years and also acknowledge he did have a very good run there for a couple years.
Ok Dayton Moore had 2 good seasons in his entire tenure.
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tk13 11:44 AM 05-16-2023
The championship teams were absolutely elite by a wide margin at making contact, playing defense and of course the bullpen. The thing no one ever talks about is other teams started copying what the Royals did. Not exactly the same way of course, but the Astros leaned hard into making contact, the Rays put a really great defense out there and now everyone has a bullpen full of power arms. No one will ever directly credit the Royals for that, but those are all things they did better than everyone else when they "broke" the game and were supposedly a fluke.
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Mecca 11:45 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by tk13:
The championship teams were absolutely elite by a wide margin at making contact, playing defense and of course the bullpen. The thing no one ever talks about is other teams started copying what the Royals did. Not exactly the same way of course, but the Astros leaned hard into making contact, the Rays put a really great defense out there and now everyone has a bullpen full of power arms. No one will ever directly credit the Royals for that, but those are all things they did better than everyone else when they "broke" the game and were supposedly a fluke.
So is your argument that once the rest of the league caught on the Royals were incapable of pivoting? They were a 1 trick pony that couldn't adjust to stay relevant?
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Sassy Squatch 11:50 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by tk13:
The championship teams were absolutely elite by a wide margin at making contact, playing defense and of course the bullpen. The thing no one ever talks about is other teams started copying what the Royals did. Not exactly the same way of course, but the Astros leaned hard into making contact, the Rays put a really great defense out there and now everyone has a bullpen full of power arms. No one will ever directly credit the Royals for that, but those are all things they did better than everyone else when they "broke" the game and were supposedly a fluke.
Yep. Attacked those inefficiencies in baseball incredibly well. While the rest of the league were shifting into power the Royals went all in on contact, defense, speed, and bullpen.
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Prison Bitch 11:52 AM 05-16-2023
Originally Posted by Mecca:
In a way he did because if you actually go through the lists of how championship teams were built, calling up an entire farm system of players at once and having it work out, never happens. All of the pitching failures, somehow getting competent play from Kendrys Morales, Chris Young etc

There was a level of luck to it, it's why when people point at this form of rebuild it's like what happened last time isn't the norm..what's more normal is you find 4-5 guys you keep around to be part of the next wave of guys and you don't really contend until that has happened 3 times.

Our pitching was an excellent in 2015. We were 3rd in AL era and 6th in runs Scored. We had the only 2 guys he ever produced in the rotation along with Volquez who was really solid. Chris Young was a good 5th alongside Kris Medlen (15-8 with a 3.60 era from that slot)

Also, he dumped a sack of garbage onto Cinci for Jon E Qweddo which only made the rotation that much better. The Pen was so good it doesn’t require mention here
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