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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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FloridaMan88 06:57 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Yet you're invoking a disease that is substantially less virulent and contagious in the process of trying to downplay it.

"I don't know why people think Mahomes throwing 50 TDs in a single season is so great, Aaron Brooks once threw 58 TDs over the course of three years."
Again you miss the point.

Drawing comparisons to terrorist attacks/acts of war to hype up a pandemic is not necessary.

Even less severe recent contagious disease outbreaks/pandemics... the Swine Flu and this year’s seasonal flu... both have higher death counts than Pearl Harbor and 9/11.
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Marcellus 07:04 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I guess I'm no way near as jaded as you. These aren't reporters. They are doctors and number crunchers, right?
:-)

Obviously it depends on the narrative for you.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 07:06 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Again you miss the point.

Drawing comparisons to terrorist attacks/acts of war to hype up a pandemic is not necessary.

Even less severe recent contagious disease outbreaks/pandemics... the Swine Flu and this year’s seasonal flu... both have higher death counts than Pearl Harbor and 9/11.
What part of rate are you not comprehending? There was no point where Swine Flu or seasonal flu approached 2000/day death rates.

From the period of February 29-March 27 there were fewer people that died of COVID-19 in the US than died just today. That's a pretty staggering statistic. The geopolitical causes are certainly different, but the daily loss of life is substantial.

The leading cause of death in the US is heart disease, at around 650K per year, or roughly 1780 per day. Today, a virus none of us had heard of six months ago killed more people than that.

If you want to argue the necessity of comparing it to acts of war, there is certainly a subforum to do that on. I'm sure you know how to find it.
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Marcellus 07:08 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
You must be looking for the ***NON-POLITICAL & NON-COMPARING DEATHS TO OTHER UNRELATED EVENTS COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

You probably can find that over here.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=47
Seems you need to boot Donger then.
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FloridaMan88 07:10 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
If you want to argue the necessity of comparing it to acts of war there is certainly a subforum to do that on. I'm sure you know how to find it.
Yes that is my point.

And the discussion on that topic can continue in another forum.
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BWillie 07:14 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
What part of rate are you not comprehending? There was no point where Swine Flu or seasonal flu approached 2000/day death rates.

From the period of February 29-March 27 there were fewer people that died of COVID-19 in the US than died just today. That's a pretty staggering statistic. The geopolitical causes are certainly different, but the daily loss of life is substantial.

The leading cause of death in the US is heart disease, at around 650K per year, or roughly 1780 per day. Today, a virus none of us had heard of six months ago killed more people than that.

If you want to argue the necessity of comparing it to acts of war, there is certainly a subforum to do that on. I'm sure you know how to find it.
This is why I do not like to take up debate with Hamas. He will just eviscerate you. No way to win. One of the smartest people on CP for sure.

Tons of mic dropping poasts like this. Sometimes as asshole. But when you harvest souls like he does in any debate how could one not be?
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DaneMcCloud 07:14 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Even less severe recent contagious disease outbreaks/pandemics... the Swine Flu and this year’s seasonal flu... both have higher death counts than Pearl Harbor and 9/11.
Name one person that needs a ventilator, a team of doctors, nurses and PPE when they get the seasonal flu.

Now, name 30,000 that needed that same equipment and care in a single month in order to survive.
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Dartgod 07:16 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Seems you need to boot Donger then.
Who said anything about booting anyone?
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Demonpenz 07:20 PM 04-07-2020
hoo boy Hamas boxing takes
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FloridaMan88 07:21 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Name one person that needs a ventilator, a team of doctors, nurses and PPE when they get the seasonal flu.

Now, name 30,000 that needed that same equipment and care in a single month in order to survive.
Considering that there were 400,000 to 730,000 estimated hospitalizations due to the seasonal flu since October (according to the CDC) it would seem likely that at least some of those cases would require “a team of doctors and nurses”, ventilator-supported care, PPE’s etc.
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Titty Meat 07:21 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
This is why I do not like to take up debate with Hamas. He will just eviscerate you. No way to win. One of the smartest people on CP for sure.

Tons of mic dropping poasts like this. Sometimes as asshole. But when you harvest souls like he does in any debate how could one not be?
I beat him once in a debate over Roy Helu. He thought he was going to be a good NFL back
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DaneMcCloud 07:28 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Considering that there were 400,000 to 730,000 estimated hospitalizations due to the seasonal flu since October (according to the CDC) it would seem likely that at least some of those cases would require “a team of doctors and nurses”, ventilator-supported care, PPE’s etc.
But dude, "some" isn't 30,000 simultaneously. That's the big issue here.

Without these quarantines and efforts by state and local governments, we'd be looking at millions of people needing this type of care just to survive, not to get better but to survive, all at the same exact time.
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tk13 07:29 PM 04-07-2020

John Prine, one of America’s greatest songwriters, has died at age 73 from coronavirus complications https://t.co/OZQnUxl5LT

— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) April 8, 2020

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'Hamas' Jenkins 07:29 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
I beat him once in a debate over Roy Helu. He thought he was going to be a good NFL back
Rep.
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BigCatDaddy 07:29 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by displacedinMN:
The park across from my development
That can't be. I was told eveyone is social distancing thus the reason the models were so far off.
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