Dude....I wanted Travis Jones as much as everyone else BUT....
We're talking about a rotational DT over a 3rd safety....when Spags loves his 3rd safety AND we just went through watching Sorensen suck ass for years.
If Cooks turns out to be at least competent....it was the right pick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Dude....I wanted Travis Jones as much as everyone else BUT....
We're talking about a rotational DT over a 3rd safety....when Spags loves his 3rd safety AND we just went through watching Sorensen suck ass for years.
If Cooks turns out to be at least competent....it was the right pick.
But long-term Chris Jones is gonna be an issue as soon as next season and Nnadi is looking more and more JAG every year.
Now if Cook can backfill for Thornhill and be a starting, every down safety for the next few years - okay, the pick is fine.
But if Travis Jones ends up being a plus starting DT and Cook ends up as a downhill thumper sort of 3rd safety - it's a miss.
There's just a lot of story left to be written here. And man, there was a LOT of talent on the board when we took Cook. Sure, he was the 4th guy we selected, but the guy's still a 2nd round pick. "At least competent" really shouldn't be seen as the bar for success here. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
But long-term Chris Jones is gonna be an issue as soon as next season and Nnadi is looking more and more JAG every year.
Now if Cook can backfill for Thornhill and be a starting, every down safety for the next few years - okay, the pick is fine.
But if Travis Jones ends up being a plus starting DT and Cook ends up as a downhill thumper sort of 3rd safety - it's a miss.
There's just a lot of story left to be written here. And man, there was a LOT of talent on the board when we took Cook. Sure, he was the 4th guy we selected, but the guy's still a 2nd round pick. "At least competent" really shouldn't be seen as the bar for success here.
I think Jones will come back on a new deal. And it just seems that Spags really doesn't give a shit about his DTs. Get a couple of guys that can do certain jobs and piece it together. Jones and Wharton will be back next year and they'll probably draft a DT in the first 3 rounds and grab another in FA to round out that group. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I think Jones will come back on a new deal. And it just seems that Spags really doesn't give a shit about his DTs. Get a couple of guys that can do certain jobs and piece it together. Jones and Wharton will be back next year and they'll probably draft a DT in the first 3 rounds and grab another in FA to round out that group.
I don't hate the argument. I get it, Spags likes a 3rd safety, Sorensen was hot trash, in this system draft the guy who's integral. I just think the talent level matters. I'm fine with the build from the back mentality but Jones, imo, would've elevated that DT and DL significantly. Cook with the secondary, maybe, but the loss of Sorensen alone elevates it. Like i say, I don't hate it and hopefully Cook makes me eat crow. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JPH83:
I don't hate the argument. I get it, Spags likes a 3rd safety, Sorensen was hot trash, in this system draft the guy who's integral. I just think the talent level matters. I'm fine with the build from the back mentality but Jones, imo, would've elevated that DT and DL significantly. Cook with the secondary, maybe, but the loss of Sorensen alone elevates it. Like i say, I don't hate it and hopefully Cook makes me eat crow.
Also with the running/scrambling QB's we face in the AFC, we needed a hammer, a much faster Hammer than Sorenson to make them think twice. [Reply]
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
There's just no way that guy makes it to 45, right?
No chance unless he makes some real changes. That dude looks 4 bills easy. He'll have a massive coronary if he doesn't do some serious nutritional work. [Reply]