Originally Posted by Shields68:
Most likely. Sounded like they wanted to move up to get Mims and did not get that done. If they did i think then Smith would have been out.
It surprises me that KC would've traded up 10 or so spots for a guy who has never played LT, and who has injury issues. They obviously know what they are doing, but that seems like it would be a riskier-than-usual trade up. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
I think if they wanted Smith they would have signed him. The money hes wanting is either significantly more that we will pay, or we just dont want him back. We have money, we have need. If they felt the NEEDED him he would be here.
Could be he is waiting for camp to be almost over before signing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I think we're ultimately teasing ourselves, here.
I still think the Chiefs want Donovan Smith, so I don't think they're going to offer anything to Zay, but they'll do the same thing they did to DeAndre Hopkins (reportedly) and offer him a smaller deal on paper but offer him analysis that suggests he'll more than make up for it in endorsements.
There will be a conversation, but I bet it goes nowhere, the team will use its money to pay Donovan Smith, and sign Mecole Hardman for pennies right before training camp.
Mentioned before the floor at LT is lower than WR right now. I don't particularly like D Smith and he's not as good a player as Jones...but we need to raise that LT floor before WR imo. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I think we're ultimately teasing ourselves, here.
I still think the Chiefs want Donovan Smith, so I don't think they're going to offer anything to Zay, but they'll do the same thing they did to DeAndre Hopkins (reportedly) and offer him a smaller deal on paper but offer him analysis that suggests he'll more than make up for it in endorsements.
There will be a conversation, but I bet it goes nowhere, the team will use its money to pay Donovan Smith, and sign Mecole Hardman for pennies right before training camp.
I don't think he stays in town a second night with that being the framework. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I think we're ultimately teasing ourselves, here.
I still think the Chiefs want Donovan Smith, so I don't think they're going to offer anything to Zay, but they'll do the same thing they did to DeAndre Hopkins (reportedly) and offer him a smaller deal on paper but offer him analysis that suggests he'll more than make up for it in endorsements.
There will be a conversation, but I bet it goes nowhere, the team will use its money to pay Donovan Smith, and sign Mecole Hardman for pennies right before training camp.
I don't think they want Smith anymore, unless someone gets injured. I think that's the only way any team signs Smith is due to injury. They have Morris and Kingsley and I'm sure they are going to give one of them every shot to grab the start LT spot. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I think we're ultimately teasing ourselves, here.
I still think the Chiefs want Donovan Smith, so I don't think they're going to offer anything to Zay, but they'll do the same thing they did to DeAndre Hopkins (reportedly) and offer him a smaller deal on paper but offer him analysis that suggests he'll more than make up for it in endorsements.
There will be a conversation, but I bet it goes nowhere, the team will use its money to pay Donovan Smith, and sign Mecole Hardman for pennies right before training camp.
I read that our cap space is about 15 million, so we should have enough to sign both Smith [about 3 million cap if it’s like last year) and Jones (about 4 million cap if it’s like OBJ contract with Miami].
I don’t think Smith will want to sign until after camp, so that probably explains the delay. And no matter how well Kingsley and Morris do at camp I still think we need Insurance and Smith. [Reply]
Originally Posted by gordonelloyd:
I read that our cap space is about 15 million, so we should have enough to sign both Smith [about 3 million cap if it’s like last year) and Jones (about 4 million cap if it’s like OBJ contract with Miami].
I don’t think Smith will want to sign until after camp, so that probably explains the delay. And no matter how well Kingsley and Morris do at camp I still think we need Insurance and Smith.
Agreed, I'd sign Smith either way if he's willing to just be insurance. After what happened in that Bucs Super Bowl, I will never be upset with this team for bringing in too many good tackles. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He’s an old player that’s had hindering injuries for 2 years straight and was top 5 in pressures allowed. He’s not exactly marketable.
The bar is pretty damn low for Kingsley IMO
Kingsley's athletic ability alone is going to be enough to keep him from getting worked too badly. Plus, Mahomes has become quite accustomed to having to deal with pressure from the left side, I'm not even really sure it phases him anymore. I think they're tired of the revolving door and are just going to let one of these young guys take the job, which I am fine with. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
FWIW Grunny has always been pretty close to the vibe with the Chiefs. He doesn’t break news but he definitely knows when the Chiefs feel a certain way about a situation.
He was very direct that he didn’t think Donovan Smith was coming back and the Chiefs want to have Wanya and Kingsley battle for LT.
In Veach we trust. I guess but.... if they blow another SB, blow a chance at a 3peat because Mahomes is running for his life all game, I'll not be so forgiving. [Reply]
