I once shot baskets in a gym adjacent to the auditorium where he was playing while the audience in the next room waited for him to play as he opened for Better Than Ezra. I interviewed him on the radio then said ok thanks, have a good show. He said "I'm not ready. You shoot hoops?" The crowd was growing impatient but Gavin and I took turns taking shots for about 10 minutes. Then he said he'd worked up a sweat and was ready.
For some reason I've only told one other person that story until I've told the world now lol.