- Ranked 2nd among charted prospects in success rate vs. man (75%) and press coverage (75.7%) - Led all prospects in success rate vs. zone coverage (88.1%) - He can play inside and outsidehttps://t.co/HbifB61JlJpic.twitter.com/HYsV8rlAzF
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Like I said, I'd give him the deal MVS got.
It's essentially a 1 year, $9 million dollar deal with team options for $9 million and $12 million thereafter.
If necessary, I'd go ahead and effectively lock in the 2nd year and make it a 2 year, $18 million deal w/ an option for a 3rd at $12 million.
He's an extremely young player who has improved here. Throwing that out because he didn't hit the ground at 100 mph (and remember, I have never liked the pick) is just awfully reckless, IMO.
Now if the money doesn't work, it doesn't work. I think JJSS or Hardman is a false choice - we can make that work.
But if it's Hardman or Thornhill? Hmmmmm.....now we're making things tough. I think I'd rather have Thornhill.
But my justifications are similar, both guys offer something that's not as easy to get as is being suggested.
After watching the Jags give Christian Kirk $18 million AAV, I think a WR like Hardman will get more than MVS easily.
Probably around $12-14 million which to me is way too much [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Like I said, I'd give him the deal MVS got.
It's essentially a 1 year, $9 million dollar deal with team options for $9 million and $12 million thereafter.
If necessary, I'd go ahead and effectively lock in the 2nd year and make it a 2 year, $18 million deal w/ an option for a 3rd at $12 million.
He's an extremely young player who has improved here. Throwing that out because he didn't hit the ground at 100 mph (and remember, I have never liked the pick) is just awfully reckless, IMO.
Now if the money doesn't work, it doesn't work. I think JJSS or Hardman is a false choice - we can make that work.
But if it's Hardman or Thornhill? Hmmmmm.....now we're making things tough. I think I'd rather have Thornhill.
But my justifications are similar, both guys offer something that's not as easy to get as is being suggested.
Mostly agree with this.
Partly I'm not sure which I'd keep; MVS or Hardman, if I had to make a choice. They're both fast, but Hardman has better change-of-direction (I think). MVS is nearly as fast, but he's a bigger target. But if he can be had for basically the same deal as MVS', then great.
If the choice was Hardman/Thornhill, yeah, I'm definitely with you, keep Thornhill. Thorny is having his best season, and if Veach is as smart as I think he is, he'll do everything within reason to keep Thorny. He'd be difficult to replace. Hardman in that scenario is a nice luxury. [Reply]
For my Chiefs fans out there wondering about Skyy Moore as a rookie WR in an Andy Reid offense, here's a chart with cumulative snaps by receivers in their rookie years. It's not ALL Reids rookies, but it's most of the ones you'd want to compare him to. Skyy is Tyreek??!! �� pic.twitter.com/D6wBQjMMyC
For my Chiefs fans out there wondering about Skyy Moore as a rookie WR in an Andy Reid offense, here's a chart with cumulative snaps by receivers in their rookie years. It's not ALL Reids rookies, but it's most of the ones you'd want to compare him to. Skyy is Tyreek??!! �� pic.twitter.com/D6wBQjMMyC
I'm not sure if this makes me feel better or worse about Skyy. You might think that the comparison of the usage to Tyreek Hill is a positive but Tyreek Hill was a running back coming out of college and his route running needed a lot more refining.
Skyy was touted as one of the more polished route runners coming out of this draft class, I understand not rushing a rookie and allowing them to digest the playbook but Skyy from a pure receiving stand point shouldn't require as much coaching from a technical perspective.
FYI still fairly bullish on Skyy, took awhile for Golden Tate to bust out- I like that comparison the best. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Shoes:
I'm not sure if this makes me feel better or worse about Skyy. You might think that the comparison of the usage to Tyreek Hill is a positive but Tyreek Hill was a running back coming out of college and his route running needed a lot more refining.
Skyy was touted as one of the more polished route runners coming out of this draft class, I understand not rushing a rookie and allowing them to digest the playbook but Skyy from a pure receiving stand point shouldn't require as much coaching from a technical perspective.
FYI still fairly bullish on Skyy, took awhile for Golden Tate to bust out- I like that comparison the best.
Skyy came from a school where the defensive looks werent 1/3rd of what hes seeing on game day now. He has to learn the playbook, learn to read defenses on the run and build chemistry with Pat. Its not as simple as plug in an athlete. If he had come from ohio state, alabama or some other school where theres NFLish defenses i'd be more concerned. I personally expect more of an Antonio Brown style entry than Jamaar Chase. [Reply]