Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Because he’s a one-trick pony and the niners are using him as such.
But......if that 1 trick is something valuable and you are smart enough to use him for that...
For example if Dee Ford stays healthier playing less snaps and proceeds to put up better numbers in half the snaps that kinda makes the Chiefs look like idiots. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
PFF disagrees with you. Clark is a 59.0 while Ogbah is a 71.1
And that only reaffirms to me how useless PFF is because I promise you that I’ve got more invested in knowing how to evaluate a player than whoever is doing that evaluation. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
But......if that 1 trick is something valuable and you are smart enough to use him for that...
For example if Dee Ford stays healthier playing less snaps and proceeds to put up better numbers in half the snaps that kinda makes the Chiefs look like idiots.
But would you pay that 1-trick $17 million a year? Or $18 million on the franchise tag?
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
But would you pay that 1-trick $17 million a year? Or $18 million on the franchise tag?
I wouldn’t.
If the alternative is paying 20 mil a year and giving up a 1st and a 2nd round pick? Yeah I'd franchise him and use that saved money and those picks elsewhere. You can find run stoppers and other players to supplement Ford's weaknesses there. Case in point...what the 49ers are doing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
But would you pay that 1-trick $17 million a year? Or $18 million on the franchise tag?
I wouldn’t.
If I thought one trick pony could put up 23 hurries, 17 QB knockdowns, 13 sacks and 7 FF over the course if a contract, then id easily pay him 17-18 million a year. Id rather pay 17-18 million for that instead of 20.5 million a year 1st rounder and 2nd rounder for a guy that is probably a slightly lesser pass rusher, not much less, and just a little bit better run defender.
With that being said, I dont think that Dee Ford will have that kind of production again and it surprises the shit out of me that Dee Ford hasn't missed a game. So if I had to pick between these options:
1. Dee Ford long term 5 yr $85.5 mil
2. Dee Ford franchise tag
3. Frank Clark give up 1st 2nd rnd draft pick and 5 yr $104 mil contract. Basically get our 2nd rounder back.
4. Keep Houston on his contract
5. None of the Aabove
This is how I rank my options
4
5
2
3
1
So in my opinion we didnt choose the worst option, but it was the 2nd worst.
And now Frank's out because he some how hurt hus neck, so after Sunday, Clark will have missed more games than Ford this year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
If the alternative is paying 20 mil a year and giving up a 1st and a 2nd round pick? Yeah I'd franchise him and use that saved money and those picks elsewhere. You can find run stoppers and other players to supplement Ford's weaknesses there. Case in point...what the 49ers are doing.
So we just need to suck and get top 10 picks for the next few years and get good DL like Armstead, Bosa and Buckner?