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O.city 01:42 PM 12-06-2021
We didn't give Alex Smith all these excuses. I'm not sure why Mahomes should get them.

Play better.
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OnTheWarpath15 01:43 PM 12-06-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
We didn't give Alex Smith all these excuses. I'm not sure why Mahomes should get them.

Play better.
THIS.
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carcosa 01:49 PM 12-06-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
We didn't give Alex Smith all these excuses. I'm not sure why Mahomes should get them.
Maybe because these "excuses" didn't apply?
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Hammock Parties 02:24 PM 12-06-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
We didn't give Alex Smith all these excuses. I'm not sure why Mahomes should get them.

Play better.
Uh.

In fact, that is exactly what happened.

Half this place doled out nothing BUT excuses for that guy for five years.
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MahomesMagic 01:50 PM 12-06-2021
Did the "it's mahomes" crowd consider it could be Mahomes and other factors?
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dirk digler 01:54 PM 12-06-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Did the "it's mahomes" crowd consider it could be Mahomes and other factors?
It definitely is multiple factors but he has clearly not played up to his normal level this year. I am sure they know what the issue is but they aren't going to say it publicly.
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FloridaMan88 01:50 PM 12-06-2021
Mahomes is now expected to perfectly pass the ball AND catch his passes as well apparently.
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O.city 01:58 PM 12-06-2021
Rewatching it on the broadcast, it's just little things. It's 10-3, in the 2nd quarter Chiefs have ball and 3rd and 10. OL blocks it up, Mahomes takes off and one of the OL ends up holding.

They had it blocked up fine. Stay in there, throw the football from the pocket.
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KC_Connection 02:20 PM 12-06-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
Rewatching it on the broadcast, it's just little things. It's 10-3, in the 2nd quarter Chiefs have ball and 3rd and 10. OL blocks it up, Mahomes takes off and one of the OL ends up holding.

They had it blocked up fine. Stay in there, throw the football from the pocket.
Or just have an offensive line that doesn't unnecessarily hold when Mahomes is doing the very thing that makes him one of the best QBs ever.
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JakeF 02:34 PM 12-06-2021
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Or just have an offensive line that doesn't unnecessarily hold when Mahomes is doing the very thing that makes him one of the best QBs ever.
Except Olineman are taught to get their hands inside and grab the chest plate part of the shoulder pads. That lets them maneuver the Dlinemen and keeps them from pulling away. As soon as Mahomes runs around in circles it makes the Oline "hold" when they weren't before. Trey Smith is using proper blocking technique. Mahomes is screwing that technique up.

In football, we had a word we'd yell when we had intercepted the ball. It told the defense to start blocking. I wonder if the chiefs could use something like that to prevent the holding calls. :-)
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O.city 02:50 PM 12-06-2021
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Or just have an offensive line that doesn't unnecessarily hold when Mahomes is doing the very thing that makes him one of the best QBs ever.
It's just unnecessary.
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O.city 02:01 PM 12-06-2021
The interception was a double clutch side arm throw high across the middle. You've gotta be more accurate there.
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OnTheWarpath15 02:07 PM 12-06-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
The interception was a double clutch side arm throw high across the middle. You've gotta be more accurate there.
You hit the nail on the head earlier, or in another thread.

He wants to play TT ball and combined with receivers letting him down, penalties, etc - it's a fucking shitshow.

The playground shit is fun when it's absolutely necessary - but there have been SO many times when it hasn't been, and he slings it sidearm, or throws on the run instead of setting his feet - and it's impacting his accuracy.

Like Collinsworth said last night - he's adding a degree of difficulty on throws that isn't necessary.

Clean that up and we'll see improved results.

Clean that up AND get the WR's to hang on to well thrown balls?

See you in the Super Bowl.
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O.city 02:11 PM 12-06-2021
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
You hit the nail on the head earlier, or in another thread.

He wants to play TT ball and combined with receivers letting him down, penalties, etc - it's a ****ing shitshow.

The playground shit is fun when it's absolutely necessary - but there have been SO many times when it hasn't been, and he slings it sidearm, or throws on the run instead of setting his feet - and it's impacting his accuracy.

Like Collinsworth said last night - he's adding a degree of difficulty on throws that isn't necessary.

Clean that up and we'll see improved results.

Clean that up AND get the WR's to hang on to well thrown balls?

See you in the Super Bowl.
In the NFL, you have to stand in the pocket and throw the ball accurately and on time. If you can throw it sidearm, upside down, whatever. But you have to be accurate.

Details matter.

That's what's letting them down. They haven't been exactly detail oriented the last few years but they'd eventually hit a big play and it wouldn't matter.
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Pasta Little Brioni 02:12 PM 12-06-2021
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
You hit the nail on the head earlier, or in another thread.

He wants to play TT ball and combined with receivers letting him down, penalties, etc - it's a fucking shitshow.

The playground shit is fun when it's absolutely necessary - but there have been SO many times when it hasn't been, and he slings it sidearm, or throws on the run instead of setting his feet - and it's impacting his accuracy.

Like Collinsworth said last night - he's adding a degree of difficulty on throws that isn't necessary.

Clean that up and we'll see improved results.

Clean that up AND get the WR's to hang on to well thrown balls?

See you in the Super Bowl.
Exactly. 8-4 and have been so sloppy all season. Baltimore NE and Tennessee gave everything to get to that mark while the Chiefs have not come close to their best ball. Scary...
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