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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Ghost of Maslowski 03:12 AM 04-03-2020

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/down...ary-deaths.pdf
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Hog's Gone Fishin 05:21 AM 04-03-2020
Originally Posted by AustinChief:
Ok question for everybody...

Now that multiple reports are showing fatality rates for people under 50 to be equivalent to a bad flu season, what is the point in continued isolation of that demographic after our death rates plateau or start to fall?

Let's say we have already hit peak and the next few days we stay below 1000 deaths/day (this is not a prediction but a hypothetical). At what point do you ease restrictions on the extremely low risk people? We obviously can't shelter in place until a vaccine comes out. Do we wait until a treatment has been proven to be effective? Do we wait until a certain percentage of America has immunity? What is your metric?
The virus will make it's way through the herd and claim the weak and then the rest of the herd will have an immune system in place.

It's just the way it works, seen it in hogs over and over. And the larger the population it's moving through, the higher the microbial density and the higher the death rate. Rural America won't be hit hard.
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SuperBowl4 06:24 AM 04-03-2020
Originally Posted by AustinChief:
Ok question for everybody...

Now that multiple reports are showing fatality rates for people under 50 to be equivalent to a bad flu season, what is the point in continued isolation of that demographic after our death rates plateau or start to fall?

Let's say we have already hit peak and the next few days we stay below 1000 deaths/day (this is not a prediction but a hypothetical). At what point do you ease restrictions on the extremely low risk people? We obviously can't shelter in place until a vaccine comes out. Do we wait until a treatment has been proven to be effective? Do we wait until a certain percentage of America has immunity? What is your metric?
The points are maybe to have a digital cashless society and mandatory vaccines and ID2020 implants? The long term goal? ID2020 is not a conspiracy. It it a goal all member states of the United Nations have agreed to. http://id2020.org Click on Digital ID and then click on WHY NOW.
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displacedinMN 06:28 AM 04-03-2020
Mpls. closes beaches, pools and programs for the entire summer
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wazu 06:43 AM 04-03-2020
Originally Posted by displacedinMN:
Mpls. closes beaches, pools and programs for the entire summer
Both weeks of it?
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Monticore 06:47 AM 04-03-2020
Originally Posted by AustinChief:
Ok question for everybody...

Now that multiple reports are showing fatality rates for people under 50 to be equivalent to a bad flu season, what is the point in continued isolation of that demographic after our death rates plateau or start to fall?

Let's say we have already hit peak and the next few days we stay below 1000 deaths/day (this is not a prediction but a hypothetical). At what point do you ease restrictions on the extremely low risk people? We obviously can't shelter in place until a vaccine comes out. Do we wait until a treatment has been proven to be effective? Do we wait until a certain percentage of America has immunity? What is your metric?
The rate of hospitalization seems higher than the flu in that age group you could still risk overwhelming the health care system if you open up everything without keeping some of the measures in place, like large gatherings etc.

I think they will start easing restrictions once the projections start going in the right direction because of treatment/immunity /vaccine or all of the above.
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displacedinMN 07:04 AM 04-03-2020
Originally Posted by wazu:
Both weeks of it?
good answer
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dirk digler 07:06 AM 04-03-2020
This is behind a paywall which sucks but you get the idea. Either the CDC tests are not accurate or the person administrating the test isn't doing it right but we need to come up with a better test.



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Monticore 07:06 AM 04-03-2020
As far as immunity goes I don't think they know everything about it yet, how long are you immune for, are you immune to all 8 strains ( or whatever the amount is)etc..

They would need to figure some of that out as well.
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displacedinMN 07:06 AM 04-03-2020
here is another "are you crazy idea"

Originally Posted by :
As the State High School League held a workshop by video that took up the what-ifs of resuming spring sports, Gov. Tim Walz gave a strong signal to suggest it won’t happen.
Why do these coaches/AD's think he would start sports again.

I hope we distance learn until the end of the year. If our curve is supposed to peak in May, why would we go back May 4 or at all?
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PAChiefsGuy 07:24 AM 04-03-2020
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
The virus will make it's way through the herd and claim the weak and then the rest of the herd will have an immune system in place.

It's just the way it works, seen it in hogs over and over. And the larger the population it's moving through, the higher the microbial density and the higher the death rate. Rural America won't be hit hard.
Claim the weak? That's a little disrespectful. So you think your parents and grandparents are weak?
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TLO 07:26 AM 04-03-2020
Originally Posted by AustinChief:
Ok question for everybody...

Now that multiple reports are showing fatality rates for people under 50 to be equivalent to a bad flu season,
Is this true?
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'Hamas' Jenkins 07:28 AM 04-03-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Is this true?
No. Nor are the hospitalization rates similar.
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PAChiefsGuy 07:29 AM 04-03-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Is this true?
I wish it was but no it isn't
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Marcellus 07:34 AM 04-03-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
This is behind a paywall which sucks but you get the idea. Either the CDC tests are not accurate or the person administrating the test isn't doing it right but we need to come up with a better test.



But if you think about it that means the mortality rate is 33% lower than believed.
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