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Marcellus 02:30 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Berry has proven to be incredibly selfish. He's the exact opposite of Gil Meche. He won't do anything to give up any money and help the team.
What part of this is not possible with the way the salary cap in the NFL is set up does your stupid ass not understand?

They dont save a dime if he retires, they dont save a penny if they cut him now or had before the season or anytime during the season.
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BossChief 02:37 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
What part of this is not possible with the way the salary cap in the NFL is set up does your stupid ass not understand?

They dont save a dime if he retires, they dont save a penny if they cut him now or had before the season or anytime during the season.
I read somewhere that if they do an injury settlement that there would be some cap relief.

This is gonna get messy, though. It’s why owners should let the people they hire do their jobs.

Clark stepped in on 2 deals...Bowe and Berry...and was lucky Bowe fucked himself or that deal would have screwed KCs cap too.
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Marcellus 02:42 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by BossChief:
I read somewhere that if they do an injury settlement that there would be some cap relief.

This is gonna get messy, though. It’s why owners should let the people they hire do their jobs.

Clark stepped in on 2 deals...Bowe and Berry...and was lucky Bowe ****ed himself or that deal would have screwed KCs cap too.
There wasn't going to be an injury settlement during this season. They wanted him to play.

Next season? :-)

I say cut him with post June 1st designation and move on.
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OKchiefs 02:46 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
What part of this is not possible with the way the salary cap in the NFL is set up does your stupid ass not understand?

They dont save a dime if he retires, they dont save a penny if they cut him now or had before the season or anytime during the season.
None of what you just said discredits what I said. You're the biggest dumbass here. A reasonable player who signed a recordbreaking contract but was unable to perform at all for the life of the contract would agree to an injury settlement. Eric Berry is selfish and isn't a reasonable player. Berry has made roughly $90 million in his career so far and will end up making almost $140 million when it's all said and done despite only being available roughly half the time. A reasonable player would see that their contract is hurting the team and agree to a reduced salary to help the team. Hell, Berry is making more than Tom Brady at this point. Let that sink in.
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UChieffyBugger 09:03 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Berry has proven to be incredibly selfish. He's the exact opposite of Gil Meche. He won't do anything to give up any money and help the team.
SMH "selfish" for being injured just like LDT is injured? Honestly, some of the BS spewed on this thread is just pathetic and quite concerning. The personal attacks and the complete lack of care for Eric's wellbeing just underlines what I said earlier. Many folks don't see these players as human beings, just "pieces of meat" that entertain them on Sunday's. And folks wonder why Peters told to "f#ck off" last season :-)
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Sassy Squatch 02:35 PM 01-10-2019
Chiefs couldn't have possibly handled this any worse if he really doesn't play Saturday.
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DaFace 02:37 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Chiefs couldn't have possibly handled this any worse if he really doesn't play Saturday.
:-)

What, exactly, do you expect them to do?
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ptlyon 02:39 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by DaFace:
:-)

What, exactly, do you expect them to do?
I hope Reid doesn't send all of the players out in search of Berry's spirit and wear them all out
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Sassy Squatch 02:41 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by DaFace:
:-)

What, exactly, do you expect them to do?
Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was fucked up.
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htismaqe 02:44 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was fucked up.
The team can't force him to have surgery.

This is 100% on Eric Berry.
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Sassy Squatch 02:45 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The team can't force him to have surgery.

This is 100% on Eric Berry.
Then NFI his ass and make him choose between arbitration or surgery.
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Marcellus 02:45 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was ****ed up.
People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?

Hindsight is awesome but the fact is he appeared to be 100% healthy heading into camp. You really blow the guy up for a season ending surgery over a sore heal? How often if ever has that been predicted?

Do you not think had they KNOWN how this was going to play out they would went another direction?

Its a mess, it sucks but given the options Im not sure they did handle it wrong.
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Sassy Squatch 02:47 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?

Hindsight is awesome but the fact is he appeared to be 100% healthy heading into camp. You really blow the guy up for a season ending surgery over a sore heal? How often if ever has that been predicted?

Do you not think had they KNOWN how this was going to play out they would went another direction?

Its a mess, it sucks but given the options Im not sure they did handle it wrong.
You mean the same sore heel that caused him to overcompensate and blow out his Achilles in the other foot a year prior?
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OKchiefs 02:49 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?

Hindsight is awesome but the fact is he appeared to be 100% healthy heading into camp. You really blow the guy up for a season ending surgery over a sore heal? How often if ever has that been predicted?

Do you not think had they KNOWN how this was going to play out they would went another direction?

Its a mess, it sucks but given the options Im not sure they did handle it wrong.
He wasn't 💯 healthy. Even if you're in denial and unwilling to admit it, the bone spurs almost certainly date back to 2017 or earlier. How else do you explain heel pain in the same foot during 2017 preseason?

And getting the surgery in augior September is a huge difference. He'd possibly be healthy by the spring and his contract wouldn't be guaranteed for injury. Now he will likely miss all of OTAs and minicamp and we'll go into another preseason questioning his availability and day to day status.
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FloridaMan88 03:47 PM 01-10-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?
The difference is he would have just missed this season and would have hopefully been ready to return at the start of next season.

Now if he has the surgery, with an 8-10 month recovery time, he will miss at least the start (and probably more) of next season.
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