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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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BigRedChief 08:05 AM 03-05-2020

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BigRedChief 08:06 AM 03-05-2020

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Deberg_1990 08:19 AM 03-05-2020
Are you one of these people?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/4950835002

Fears about a worsening coronavirus outbreak have led shoppers in the U.S. and other hard-hit countries to begin stocking up on supplies to fill "pandemic pantries," a new report from Nielsen suggests.

Sales of sought-after hand sanitizers have risen 73% in dollar value in the four weeks ending Feb. 22, compared with the same period in 2019, Nielsen says. Similarly, medical masks sales spiked 319%, aerosol disinfectants rose 47% and thermometers increased 32%.

Among food goods with skyrocketing sales: oat milk. Sales of the product rose 305% in the week ending Feb. 22.

"Consumers around the world are actively stockpiling emergency supplies as concerns grow that the Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) could become a worldwide pandemic," reads the report titled, "Nielsen Investigation: 'Pandemic Pantries' Pressure Supply Chain Amid COVID-19 Fears."

Nielsen, which tracks more than 900,000 stores in 100 countries, found "significant spikes in the hoarding of emergency supplies" in the U.S., China and Italy.

The repercussions could be severe. The World Health Organization said Wednesday that panic buying and hoarding have contributed to a global shortage of face masks, which puts health care workers at risk.

Store shelves in Taiwan, China and Japan have been emptied of hand sanitizer, toilet paper, bleach and cleaning pads, and the U.S. is seeing similar patterns. At the same time, some sellers have begun to hike prices of desired products to gouge buyers. Amazon, eBay and Walmart have all said they are taking action to stop price gouging.


The demand is out there. Nielsen's report found sales of medical face masks in San Francisco drugstores are up 541% over a year ago and that sales so far this year have already surpassed those for all of 2019. Sales of medical face masks in Los Angeles drugstores rose 340%, Nielsen says.

Sales of household maintenance masks are skyrocketing nationwide, too, up 262% over the previous month.

"Stocks of hand sanitizers and medical face masks have already dried up in some markets, with no clear indication of when supplies will be replenished," Nielsen said.

The panic buying "ripple effect" is going beyond emergency items such as canned goods, flour, sugar and bottled water, to other non-food essentials such as vitamins, fruit snacks and first aid kits, says the report from Nielsen's consumer goods and retail research division.


Sales of dried beans rose 10.1%, while frozen fruit sales were up 7% in the week ending Feb. 22, the report says.

"Fresh food items are expected to face challenges as shoppers steer away from anything that may have travelled long distances, such as fruit and vegetables, or may have been exposed to the airborne virus," said Scott McKenzie, global intelligence leader at Nielsen.

Current shopping and stockpiling behavior is similar to that seen before snowstorms, he says. "That said, beyond the traditional focus on milk, bread and eggs, consumers now are even more focused on packaged products without extensive, direct contact, that perhaps were packaged during less severe stages of the outbreak," McKenzie said.

Nielsen research found that in Vietnam, 45% of consumers surveyed say they have increased what they’re stocking at home and 25% are buying more online.


"Beyond health preparedness, U.S. consumers aren’t waiting until it’s too late to stock up on shelf-stable essentials, which parallels what we’ve seen in other regions," the report says. "We do expect online shopping to rise as people become increasingly interested in reducing their exposure to others, as the virus appears to be spread via coughs and sneezes."

Other products beginning to see sales increases include air cleaners and air purifiers, sales of which rose 3% in the week ending Feb. 22.

The next possible product shortage? Hand and body lotion.

"Simply because an increased focus on hand washing and disinfecting will have a negative effect on skin," Nielsen says.
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Bearcat 08:22 AM 03-05-2020
This has been discussed at length in this thread that's been on the front page forever, so I'm not sure why we'd need a second one.
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loochy 08:36 AM 03-05-2020
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990:
The panic buying "ripple effect" is going beyond emergency items such as canned goods, flour, sugar and bottled water, to other non-food essentials such as vitamins, fruit snacks and first aid kits, says the report from Nielsen's consumer goods and retail research division.
Fruit snacks are essential? No wonder we have a nation full of fat pieces of crap. Also, I find it interesting that they consider fruit snacks as non food.
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InChiefsHeaven 09:29 AM 03-05-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
The cases in Nebraska are due to people being flown here for treatment at Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha. Makes the numbers a little disingenuous...
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InChiefsHeaven 09:32 AM 03-05-2020
Seriously though, H1N1 was way worse than this and it was only 11 years ago...why is this such a huge panic by some? Yeah, it's a virus, and it's in multiple countries, but it's not the end of the bloody world.
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Beef Supreme 09:36 AM 03-05-2020
Originally Posted by loochy:
Fruit snacks are essential? No wonder we have a nation full of fat pieces of crap. Also, I find it interesting that they consider fruit snacks as non food.
You're goddamn right they're essential! :-)
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Mecca 09:36 AM 03-05-2020
Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven:
Seriously though, H1N1 was way worse than this and it was only 11 years ago...why is this such a huge panic by some? Yeah, it's a virus, and it's in multiple countries, but it's not the end of the bloody world.
Because this is the world we live in, panic and hysteria over everything.
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Beef Supreme 09:37 AM 03-05-2020
Panic is good for ratings.
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suzzer99 09:37 AM 03-05-2020
Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven:
Seriously though, H1N1 was way worse than this and it was only 11 years ago...why is this such a huge panic by some? Yeah, it's a virus, and it's in multiple countries, but it's not the end of the bloody world.
H1N1 had a lower death rate than this (0.01-0.08%). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic
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suzzer99 09:38 AM 03-05-2020

Just spoke with ER doc who say he's seeing cases he's 99% sure are #coronavirus. Negative for flu, recent travel, work in airports. Not allowed to test. Patients return to work because they can't take time off w/out a firm diagnosis. Other ER docs seeing the same thing.

— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) March 4, 2020


From the replies seems like this is going on in a lot of places. This one is in New Hampshire.
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Donger 09:47 AM 03-05-2020
162 cases now.
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Donger 09:58 AM 03-05-2020
(CNN)A former cruise ship passenger has died from coronavirus almost two weeks after he returned home, marking California's first death from the illness and the 11th death across the US.

Now the same ship is headed back to California from a different voyage with 2,500 passengers on board -- including dozens who went on the same trip as the California man who died.

At least 11 passengers and 10 crew members currently on board Princess Cruises' Grand Princess ship have developed symptoms, California Gov. Gavin Newsom said.

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BWillie 09:59 AM 03-05-2020
Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven:
Seriously though, H1N1 was way worse than this and it was only 11 years ago...why is this such a huge panic by some? Yeah, it's a virus, and it's in multiple countries, but it's not the end of the bloody world.
The thing about H1N1 is it can affect healthy young adults less indiscriminately to older people. I don't have the data, but it's possible H1N1 (which is still infecting many people to this day) is almost or more dangerous to an adult under 50 than Covid-19.
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