Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by SupDock:
Agree. Does it go in the lounge or DC?
My vote would be DC, but either way - I'm out. I can't do the speculation, worst case scenarios, best case scenarios, death toll, mortality rate, death rate, ventilators in reserve, hospitals being overwhelmed, etc, etc, etc, anymore. I'm going to drive myself into a mental breakdown.
I don't know who to believe in the media when it comes to reporting facts, and that scares me. I remember not that long ago that I believed things I heard on the radio or TV. I got my panties in a bunch because I believed a bunch of hype about Tyreek Hill abusing his son. I felt like such an ass for jumping to a conclusion before having all the facts. I'm not claiming that all media is bad - or have some sort of agenda, but I truly don't know who to trust.
I'll pay attention to my local news, maybe listen to reports by the CDC and WHO, but that's it.
I hope you all stay healthy and well, and I hope your family and friends do the same. See you in other less chaotic threads. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
The problem is just that, at some point the upward curve becomes an S. It's already happened in some places. We just don't know when.
New projection just for US cases - using the same method.
I'm not sure if 88k overwhelms the hospital system. But our % of cases that need hospitalization must be really high since we're barely testing anyone. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Leave it here and leave the one in DC.
Yep I agree. There have been a lot of guys booted out of this thread for posting DC crap in it. It's pretty fucking easy, if people want to go there, post it in the DC thread. [Reply]
on Sirius, they have a free channel set up that's just about the virus. I've listened to it some over the past couple of days, it seems to be an hour or so loop, but they have been updating it with new content every now and then:
(scroll down and click the "click here to listen now" button)
On my radio it's channel 121, but I think that differs by the car.
These are actual doctors talking about the virus, and it's not political or fear-mongering, but realistic factual information. Worth a listen if you're concerned. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
why do you keep trying to minimize the situation? There is no equivilancy with measles. It’s not apples to apples.
If a white man, even with Nazi beliefs walks into a church, shopping center and murders many people, most just accept that as life in 2020. Nothing changes. Yet, if that white person was instead a Muslim and a member of ISIS, holy hell and panic would be unleashed.
Same gun. Same number of people dead. One thing is different. Yes, this is a virus, not unlike others. But, it’s not the same is it?
Yeah, I see we're keeping retarded political takes out of the lounge.
As everyone knew, it's not a moderation thing so much as a squeaky wheel thing. [Reply]
We have had 3 1 off direct exposures in the last 24 hours here at the US Wuhan virus epicenter. Truth is there is a good chance we will be the first at CP to be exposed and I still couldn’t give a rats ass. Take care is your health :-) and get on with your life. [Reply]
New projection just for US cases - using the same method.
I'm not sure if 88k overwhelms the hospital system. But our % of cases that need hospitalization must be really high since we're barely testing anyone.
So...predicting a much more explosive outbreak than China, a nation with over a billion people in it. Gonna bet the under. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
I’ve posted more scientific facts about the virus in this thread more than anyone. It’s not my fault your thin skin is triggered by a fact.
My skin's not thin and I actually don't care if you post your retarded political shit, let alone 'triggered.'
You've definitely been oblivious for decades if you think I want to be shielded from political content. I've been against ghetto sequestration of certain forms of discourse here since the place began.
My point of contention isn't about you posting whatever you want, it's about the mods pretending that they have a 'no tolerance, stop the bullshit or heads will roll, really, we're really tired of it' policy about 'political content' in the lounge, . . . when what they're actually tired of is the squeaky wheels that bitch about 'certain' political content, which makes them convene and make mod decisions. [Reply]
