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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's talk about the Ravens.
Direckshun 12:34 AM 12-03-2018
The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?
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TomBarndtsTwin 02:23 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
He couldn't overcome it against the Patriots or Rams. 40 points and 51 points respectively. Wasn't enough.
Both games on the road.

If they were in Arrowhead or on a neutral field, who would you bet on in those games?
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Best22 03:20 PM 12-03-2018
Chiefs didn’t draft Mahomes...

Mahomes drafted the Chiefs

This team is built in his image, on his terms

No wonder all the stale franchise records are falling...
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NJChiefsFan 03:45 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Funny posts, even though the Raiders suck we do realize even bad teams don't get blown out in the NFL right?

If you go look at the teams with the worst records they'll have a bunch of close losses, that's the NFL.
That's where I am at. Plus it's a division game. People ignore it but seeing a team a lot means something. Not trying to gloss over yesterday's second half but it is the nfl and it is a divisional game on the road.

My biggest concern is Jackson running. I know that's obvious but I can easily envision our LB's letting him run for a number of key first downs even when they are in position. He's been a really bad passer so far from what I've witnessed. I'm assuming the numbers back that up.
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O.city 03:50 PM 12-03-2018

Top 5 combined QB Pressures among EDGE duos entering Monday Night Football...@Chiefs - Ford & Houston@Redskins - Smith & Kerrigan@Broncos - Miller & Chubb@Steelers - Watt & Dupree@HoustonTexans - Watt & Clowney pic.twitter.com/OGk4mC9DFJ

— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) December 3, 2018


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NJChiefsFan 03:51 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:

Does any combo there have more man games missed? I can't keep track of Watt anymore. Imagine what those numbers would be if Houston never had surgery.
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staylor26 03:52 PM 12-03-2018
Wow that’s even more impressive considering we’ve been missing Houston or Ford for quite a few games.
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staylor26 03:53 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
Does any combo there have more man games missed? I can't keep track of Watt anymore. Imagine what those numbers would be if Houston never had surgery.
It’s just for this year, but I’d be willing to bet our guys have missed more games/snaps than the others.
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ThaVirus 04:35 PM 12-03-2018
They've got the advantage of playing on the other side of our offense, though. Even with Houston's missed games they've probably got the edge on pass rush snaps.
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Best22 04:36 PM 12-03-2018
Pass rush? Check
Quarterback? Check
Receivers? Check
Homefield??

We can beat anybody in the AFC
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staylor26 04:37 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
They've got the advantage of playing on the other side of our offense, though. Even with Houston's missed games they've probably got the edge on pass rush snaps.
Sure there’s some truth to that, but I still seriously doubt that they’ve had more than those guys.

Ford barely played in two games also. There’s just no way.
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ThaVirus 04:37 PM 12-03-2018
We'll struggle with Jackson's speed and their OL's physicality, but I can't picture a rookie running QB coming into Arrowhead and outdeuiling Pat at this point.

It'll give us a good bit of practice for Russell Wilson at any rate. I don't think we've faced any mobile QBs yet this year.
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RaidersOftheCellar 05:19 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Best22:
Pass rush? Check
Quarterback? Check
Receivers? Check
Homefield??

We can beat anybody in the AFC
The Chiefs can beat anybody in the NFL. And I think they're frankly the team to beat.

But with this defense, they could also lose to almost any team on a day when the offense makes mistakes.

Penalties are frankly my biggest worry. Whether there's an agenda or not, penalties could be the difference in a high-stakes game.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05:23 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Best22:
Pass rush? Check
Quarterback? Check
Receivers? Check
Homefield??

We can beat anybody in the AFC
Safeties? Uncheck
Cornerbacks? Uncheck
Linebackers that can cover? Uncheck
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New World Order 05:24 PM 12-03-2018
Pass rush won't be as big of a factor with this goofy rushing offense they run.
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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 05:28 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
Safeties? Uncheck
Cornerbacks? Uncheck
Linebackers that can cover? Uncheck
Other team has a quarterback who isn’t a great passer? Check and Mate.
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