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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Trump's Illegal Immigration Win-Win - Relocate Illegals to Sanctuary Cities
Taco John 01:28 PM 04-12-2019

Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 12, 2019


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suzzer99 11:20 PM 04-13-2019
God forbid - people who arrive in the US wanting to work at shit jobs no American wants to do to make a better life for their kids - like pretty much every one of our white ancestors did. (obviously if you're black it's a much different experience)

It literally says on the Statue of Liberty: "Bring us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses". It does not say "Bring us only white people who already have plenty of wealth".

California - 5th largest economy in the world (sometimes 4th - it varies). 1st generation immigrants are the backbone of the economy - doing all the shit jobs Americans would never do. 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants are at the head of a ton of companies, including a lot of silicon valley. Yeah - we can handle some asylum seekers, no problem.
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Over Yonder 11:36 PM 04-13-2019
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
God forbid - people who arrive in the US wanting to work at shit jobs no American wants to do to make a better life for their kids - like pretty much every one of our white ancestors did. (obviously if you're black it's a much different experience)

It literally says on the Statue of Liberty: "Bring us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses". It does not say "Bring us only white people who already have plenty of wealth".

California - 5th largest economy in the world (sometimes 4th - it varies). 1st generation immigrants are the backbone of the economy - doing all the shit jobs Americans would never do. 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants are at the head of a ton of companies, including a lot of silicon valley. Yeah - we can handle some asylum seekers, no problem.
For the record, it doesn't literally say "Sneak across our borders, crap out a kid or two, and then apply for welfare!"

Well, at least I don't think it says that. I've never been there so I can't verify.
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suzzer99 11:39 PM 04-13-2019
The last people to go on welfare are immigrants. That's what lazy people who never leave their hometown and blame others for all their problems do.

Anyone with the gumption to risk death, rape, jail, and whatever else and walk/hitch 1000s of miles through Mexico to get to the US - is not looking to sit on the dole. It's a ridiculous idea on it's face and not born out by any statistics - anecdotal cases aside.

My ancestors are Italian, Irish, German, English and Scottish. I'd bet most of their stories are very similar to people trying to make it to the US from Central America right now. They even spoke different languages until the 2nd generation. Imagine. And Southern Italians are kind of brown-skinned.



Oh look - 100 years ago my Italian ancestors were just as scary if not worse. My Dad told me that in the 60s he was one of the last candidates for some govt job. The hiring manager flat out told him that he'd never hire an Italian. My Dad looks like Mark Twain - so it was 100% about his last name.

Same goes for the Irish.



The Irish just don't assimilate. Lol. Neither do Asians.



Same bullshit, different centuries. Rich whites trigger poor (and now middle class) whites with fears of "the other", igniting basic human tribalism - ultimately to distract them while they're being exploited and robbed blind.

It's been the same story since Bacon's Rebellion - before we were even a country. Rich people figured out the only way to keep the masses down is to pit them against each other.

The other weird human quirk they capitalize on is that people would usually rather see their enemies suffer than themselves do well. Perusing this forum is pretty much proof of that. The cruelty is the whole point. So at least the average Trumpfan knows libtards and minorities are going to suffer under his rule. If he actually makes life better for them? Well that's just icing on the cake.
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patteeu 07:06 AM 04-14-2019
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
The last people to go on welfare are immigrants. That's what lazy people who never leave their hometown and blame others for all their problems do.

Anyone with the gumption to risk death, rape, jail, and whatever else and walk/hitch 1000s of miles through Mexico to get to the US - is not looking to sit on the dole. It's a ridiculous idea on it's face and not born out by any statistics - anecdotal cases aside.

My ancestors are Italian, Irish, German, English and Scottish. I'd bet most of their stories are very similar to people trying to make it to the US from Central America right now. They even spoke different languages until the 2nd generation. Imagine. And Southern Italians are kind of brown-skinned.



Oh look - 100 years ago my Italian ancestors were just as scary if not worse. My Dad told me that in the 60s he was one of the last candidates for some govt job. The hiring manager flat out told him that he'd never hire an Italian. My Dad looks like Mark Twain - so it was 100% about his last name.

Same goes for the Irish.



The Irish just don't assimilate. Lol. Neither do Asians.



Same bullshit, different centuries. Rich whites trigger poor (and now middle class) whites with fears of "the other", igniting basic human tribalism - ultimately to distract them while they're being exploited and robbed blind.

It's been the same story since Bacon's Rebellion - before we were even a country. Rich people figured out the only way to keep the masses down is to pit them against each other.

The other weird human quirk they capitalize on is that people would usually rather see their enemies suffer than themselves do well. Perusing this forum is pretty much proof of that. The cruelty is the whole point. So at least the average Trumpfan knows libtards and minorities are going to suffer under his rule. If he actually makes life better for them? Well that's just icing on the cake.
You seem like an overly race-focused person (I don’t want to call you racist). But let’s leave aside your habit of viewing almost all politics through a distorted racial prism.

In this post you’ve praised illegal immigrants in near heroic terms. They’re superior to Americans in terms of resorting to welfare, according to you. They’ve got gumption. Who wouldn’t want to accept and embrace these people?

Then, with no sense of inconsistency, you tell us that the President’s idea is going to lead to libtards and minorities suffering a cruelty. How so? Isn’t it a rational approach to deliver these people to regions where they’re the most tolerated and welcomed?
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IowaHawkeyeChief 07:13 AM 04-14-2019
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
God forbid - people who arrive in the US wanting to work at shit jobs no American wants to do to make a better life for their kids - like pretty much every one of our white ancestors did. (obviously if you're black it's a much different experience)

It literally says on the Statue of Liberty: "Bring us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses". It does not say "Bring us only white people who already have plenty of wealth".

California - 5th largest economy in the world (sometimes 4th - it varies). 1st generation immigrants are the backbone of the economy - doing all the shit jobs Americans would never do. 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants are at the head of a ton of companies, including a lot of silicon valley. Yeah - we can handle some asylum seekers, no problem.
That's Bullshit, years of legal and illegal low skilled immigration has devestated wages, especially in poor brown, black and white communities. Meat packing jobs pay less in today than they did 30 years ago. Why is that?
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RodeoPants2 12:54 PM 04-14-2019
Since the president incorrectly sees immigrants as rapists and gang members, he's clearly trying to enact a policy of retribution against his political enemies, which is disgusting and shameful.

That said, I support this policy and think bussing immigrants with refugee claims to sanctuary cities is a good idea, regardless of the childish and petty place it's coming from.
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Over Yonder 12:54 PM 04-14-2019
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
The last people to go on welfare are immigrants. That's what lazy people who never leave their hometown and blame others for all their problems do.
I've gotta ask. What/how/why does one leaving or not leaving their hometown have any tie whatsoever to do with being lazy? Does lazy have something to do with where you live?

My grandpa lived his entire life in Sullivan County, Missouri. And let me tell you, he was anything but lazy. He could outwork us grand kids well into his 60's. Kinda embarrassing looking back on it, but in my defense, I was a Democrat back then :-)
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CoMoChief 01:25 PM 04-14-2019
Originally Posted by Over Yonder:
I've gotta ask. What/how/why does one leaving or not leaving their hometown have any tie whatsoever to do with being lazy? Does lazy have something to do with where you live?

My grandpa lived his entire life in Sullivan County, Missouri. And let me tell you, he was anything but lazy. He could outwork us grand kids well into his 60's. Kinda embarrassing looking back on it, but in my defense, I was a Democrat back then :-)
Suzzer is one of the CP DC village dumbfucks...can't really take anything he says seriously.
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Over Yonder 11:02 PM 04-14-2019
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Suzzer is one of the CP DC village dumb****s...can't really take anything he says seriously.
I try not to sling mud so to speak, but that statement has me wanting to really, really bad.:-)

I'm reading it as dirt poor farm folk aren't enlightened enough to have an opinion. Or small town factory working folk, either. They need to shut their damn mouth and accept their place at the kid's table!!

Let us enlightened folk that have traveled about decide everything and while you are at it, I'm gonna tax you....."for your own good :-) "
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patteeu 04:16 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by Over Yonder:
I try not to sling mud so to speak, but that statement has me wanting to really, really bad.:-)

I'm reading it as dirt poor farm folk aren't enlightened enough to have an opinion. Or small town factory working folk, either. They need to shut their damn mouth and accept their place at the kid's table!!

Let us enlightened folk that have traveled about decide everything and while you are at it, I'm gonna tax you....."for your own good :-) "
Suzzer is big on coastal superiority.
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scho63 06:13 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
The last people to go on welfare are immigrants. That's what lazy people who never leave their hometown and blame others for all their problems do.
This is a cute little piece of bullshit.
1. We are talking about ILLEGAL immigration, not getting in line like 99% of our ancestors did. These are line and fence jumpers.
2. US Government shows illegals are substantially on welfare, government assistance and other handouts along with crime at a much higher PERCENTAGE than native born.
3. Many immigrants didn't assimilate so easy BUT they NEVER wanted to change America like many of today's immigrants and illegals.
4. Illegals have depressed wages across all lower blue collar jobs and knocked out many African American and white lower educated workers. No one wants a job that once paid $12/ hr that was driven down to $8/ hr by illegals. I have FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE AND FACTS from my hardwood flooring business in New Jersey. Brazilian illegals destroyed the market and drove prices to zero profits for 90% of stores and long time workers in the flooring trade.
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BucEyedPea 06:23 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
The last people to go on welfare are immigrants.
You're changing the subject to "immigrants" which is a strawman argument. This is about "illegal immigration." It's about "border security", so we can vet who enters for health etc.

Why is it everytime "illegal immigration" comes up, leftists start talking immigration. You're not communicating. You are deflecting.

Illegals get welfare via their children. Even legal ones. I had a tenant who bragged how she had her baby delivered for free. They use the ERs. Their kids use the schools even when they don't pay property tax because they don't own any.

You lefties are always trying to claim that roads, police, firemen, and schools are part of socialism aka welfare. So why not have govt provide more of what everyone uses. So they get welfare using your own arguments and reasoning.
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theoldcoach 09:51 AM 04-15-2019
Leftists cannot....or actually will not......distinguish between legal and illegal immigration.

And I think that there is a noticeable turn going on in this country. I think that the majority of Americans are beginning to see the democrat's immigration position for the political bull**** that it is. At least I am starting to get that impression from what I am reading, hearing and from talking to some of my democrat friends.

It may very well become a BIG loser for them in 2020.

Illegal immigration MUST BE STOPPED in this country. And that is becoming increasingly evident by the day!
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