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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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petegz28 04:33 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
The deniers in here that think its BS that someone thinks its a hoax, need to grow up and quit neg repping and open their eyes. Poster after poster has had a run in with one or knows someone. We are all lying? Redbled lying about his Dad?

There are millions that think its a hoax. And why wouldn't they? The person they trust more than anyone in the world told them its a hoax.
:-)
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BigRedChief 04:35 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I wonder how many people he has killed each year not wearing a mask and spreading flu.
Preliminary CDC estimates for the 2019-2020 influenza season indicate that, as of April 4, 2020, between 24,000 and 62,000 lost their lives to the flu.

We are at 225K+ dead Americans. And the worse is yet to come. So no, its not the flu.
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petegz28 04:36 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I wonder how many people he has killed each year not wearing a mask and spreading flu.
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Uh, 'scuse me???? Like, those people don't count because reasons. Yeah, as if!
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Preliminary CDC estimates for the 2019-2020 influenza season indicate that, as of April 4, 2020, between 24,000 and 62,000 lost their lives to the flu.

We are at 225K+ dead Americans. And the worse is yet to come. So no, its not the flu.
Told you. Those people don't count.
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BigRedChief 04:37 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Well, good news is my dad is doing really well. Was released from quarantine on Thursday afternoon. He's feeling good enough he went to eat with his golfing buddies today for lunch.

Bad news is my 13 daughter just came back positive from another source. She's doing well. Feels ok, up moving around and it looks like a head cold right now.
Glad to hear about your Dad. Hope the daughter just shrugs it off too. Positive thoughts heading your way.
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MahomesMagic 04:40 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Preliminary CDC estimates for the 2019-2020 influenza season indicate that, as of April 4, 2020, between 24,000 and 62,000 lost their lives to the flu.

We are at 225K+ dead Americans. And the worse is yet to come. So no, its not the flu.
That wasn't my point but since you mentioned 225K died with Covid we don't know how many died from Covid.

Flu deaths are estimates. If we counted everyone that died in the US as a flu death if they tested + on a ramped up PCR test I bet we could double or triple the estimated flu deaths using the same new Covid criteria.
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Donger 04:41 PM 11-21-2020
Back to March again... Nice.
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petegz28 04:42 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
That wasn't my point but since you mentioned 225K died with Civil we don't know how many died from Civil.

Flu deaths are estimates. If we counted everyone that died in the US as a flu death if they tested + on a ramped up PCR test I bet we could double or triple the estimated flu deaths using the same new Covid criteria.
You said flu so you had to me comparing Covid to the flu because why else would you mention the flu? :-)

He didn't read a thing you said. He saw "flu" and went on an incoherent tangent that had nothing to do with what you said.
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Pasta Little Brioni 04:49 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Preliminary CDC estimates for the 2019-2020 influenza season indicate that, as of April 4, 2020, between 24,000 and 62,000 lost their lives to the flu.

We are at 225K+ dead Americans. And the worse is yet to come. So no, its not the flu.
It's way more than that if you do the same reporting criteria. But hey they don't get paid as much as they do for covud deaths. Nothing Shady there!
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Donger 04:58 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
It's way more than that if you do the same reporting criteria. But hey they don't get paid as much as they do for covud deaths. Nothing Shady there!
So you think that hospitals and doctors are falsely listing Medicare patients as COVID-19 cases in order to get more money from the government. Is that correct?
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suzzer99 05:02 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
So you think that hospitals and doctors are falsely listing Medicare patients as COVID-19 cases in order to get more money from the government. Is that correct?
I haven't seen one credible allegation of this actually happening. But they still love to throw it around like it's some kind of obvious fact that of course doctors and hospitals are lying and risking serious punishment for fraud - all for that sweet extra few $k per patient.
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MahomesMagic 05:02 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
It's way more than that if you do the same reporting criteria. But hey they don't get paid as much as they do for covud deaths. Nothing Shady there!
If they want to beat us over the head with 225,000 people died FROM covid they shouldn't be counting people who died in motorcycle accidents or get shot in the head as a Covid death.

We will eventually get a handle on it but I suspect a bunch are people who were dying anyway that got coded incorrectly on the way out.
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Donger 05:13 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
If they want to beat us over the head with 225,000 people died FROM covid they shouldn't be counting people who died in motorcycle accidents or get shot in the head as a Covid death.

We will eventually get a handle on it but I suspect a bunch are people who were dying anyway that got coded incorrectly on the way out.
How many of the 250,000 COVID-9 deaths do you think were counted like that?

As to the one incident in Florida which you cite, that death was removed and isn't included in Florida's COVID-19 death figures.
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Shiver Me Timbers 05:19 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Good to hear about your Dad. Your daughter will be fine. Just keep an eye on her breathing and fever levels.
and monitor oxygen levels.
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RocKhawks 05:24 PM 11-21-2020
Not saying its a hoax. But i know many people who had it with little to no symptoms. As a super spreader, the rest of the people's family tested negative. I don't know a single person who has died from it either. Again, not saying it's a hoax, but definitely think its being blown out of proportion. A 95% to 99.7% recovery rate too. I don't mean to offend anyone who knows someone who has passed from this.
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MahomesMagic 05:24 PM 11-21-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
How many of the 250,000 COVID-9 deaths do you think were counted like that?

As to the one incident in Florida which you cite, that death was removed and isn't included in Florida's COVID-19 death figures.
It was removed out of embarrassment. Unfortunately not every death gets featured in the news. NY Times had a 100,000 dead special. They needed someone young and ended up putting a picture of a guy shot in the head as one of the 100,000.
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