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Nzoner's Game Room>Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
Dante84 10:03 AM 02-08-2021
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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staylor26 02:33 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
Physical freaks with upside at DE go in the top 12 picks. Good luck getting one of those dudes at 31
Phillips and Oweh will be in our range and they both fit the description.
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O.city 02:36 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Phillips and Oweh will be in our range and they both fit the description.
If they end up really fitting what he's looking for, I'm skeptical they're around at 31.

I'd take Phillips, but I'm guessing he ends up in the top 20.
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Sassy Squatch 02:39 PM 02-22-2021
Oweh won't make it that far down if he actually delivers at whatever equivalent the NFL has of the combine this year.
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htismaqe 02:42 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
You mean, like KPass?
Well, he did say in the mid rounds.

KPass gets a lot of snaps, it's just that he was a 2nd rounder. If he would have been a 4th rounder, that pick would look a lot better.
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htismaqe 02:43 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Oweh won't make it that far down if he actually delivers at whatever equivalent the NFL has of the combine this year.
Sounds like it's just going to be pro days and individual workouts at this point.
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BossChief 02:57 PM 02-22-2021
Who is the Montez Sweat of this draft? That’s the guy I wanted before we traded for Clark...and Sweat was a beast last year and had full blown elite measurables at the SC that fell to 26.
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Sassy Squatch 02:59 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Who is the Montez Sweat of this draft? That’s the guy I wanted before we traded for Clark...and Sweat was a beast last year and had full blown elite measurables at the SC that fell to 26.
Oweh. His unofficial numbers are almost identical except that ridiculous 4.33 40.
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htismaqe 03:00 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Who is the Montez Sweat of this draft? That’s the guy I wanted before we traded for Clark...and Sweat was a beast last year and had full blown elite measurables at the SC that fell to 26.
It's not just about the measurables, they need to have some production in college as well. Of course, Sweat did.

The reason Sweat fell was because of his heart condition.

If I had to guess, this year's version is Jaelen Phillips.
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staylor26 03:03 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Oweh won't make it that far down if he actually delivers at whatever equivalent the NFL has of the combine this year.
Can’t be true. I was told in the draft section that Oweh isn’t even a 1st rounder because of the lack of production in 2020.

:-)
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staylor26 03:05 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
If they end up really fitting what he's looking for, I'm skeptical they're around at 31.

I'd take Phillips, but I'm guessing he ends up in the top 20.
If he’s not a Chief, I really hope he gets picked before the Browns.

Garrett and Phillips would be an unreal duo.
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htismaqe 03:05 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Oweh. His unofficial numbers are almost identical except that ridiculous 4.33 40.
Sweat had the college production to match his measurables. Oweh really didn't.

Not saying I don't like Oweh as a prospect, just saying there's not a lot of similarities with Sweat outside of the athleticism.
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RunKC 03:10 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
You mean, like KPass?
No. Kpass was 289 lbs and 6’7”. He was never a fit for DE. He was always a better fit at DT
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staylor26 03:10 PM 02-22-2021
Imagine trading 2 1st rounders for a safety only to turnaround and trade your franchise QB for 3.

Wtf?
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RunKC 03:14 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
Physical freaks with upside at DE go in the top 12 picks. Good luck getting one of those dudes at 31
Pest wants a guy in FA who was undrafted who had high potential athleticism that was realized. Somehow a guy who had 9 sacks his last year of college with these measurables went undrafted:

6’4”
263 lbs
34+ inch arms
4.90 40
7.38 3 cone
23 bench reps

Happens more often than people think
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Toad 07:23 PM 02-22-2021
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Oweh. His unofficial numbers are almost identical except that ridiculous 4.33 40.
Holy crap! He will get noticed if he runs a 4.33 at the combine or pro-day.
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