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rico 11:01 PM 10-06-2013


As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

Thoughts?

DISCUS!!!!


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KC_Connection 01:05 AM 04-19-2016
The 2nd season of this great show was even better than the first. I haven't liked Chuck since last season's revelation that he was sabotaging Jimmy largely out of selfish pride, but at least then you could sympathize with him. That's becoming harder and harder to do with each passing episode. He only sees the worst in his brother and, as Kim said last week, it is one of the reasons why Jimmy is the way that he is.
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Sure-Oz 06:47 AM 04-19-2016
Wonder if they'll get further into Chuck's back story like what happened to his wife.gf? Can't remember which she was and how he came into fearing electricity.
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Sure-Oz 06:48 AM 04-19-2016
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Gus Fring.
Would love to see this...wish they had more episodes .but a quality show
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chiefzilla1501 07:57 AM 04-19-2016
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
The 2nd season of this great show was even better than the first. I haven't liked Chuck since last season's revelation that he was sabotaging Jimmy largely out of selfish pride, but at least then you could sympathize with him. That's becoming harder and harder to do with each passing episode. He only sees the worst in his brother and, as Kim said last week, it is one of the reasons why Jimmy is the way that he is.
Not to get biblical but the setup makes me think Gilligan is referencing the prodigal son. Jimmy is the prodigal son who tries to go legit. Chuck is the jealous brother upset that his brother is getting showered with attention. In the end, it's the jealous brother who has done right all his life that is painted as the bad guy.

Chuck is the jealous brother on steroids. He's now using Jimmy's love for chuck as a weapon. Jimmy has been masterful at covering his tracks but slips twice because he cares more about his brother than about covering his own ass. Chuck using that against Jimmy says a lot about what a weasel he's become.
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Gonzo 08:14 AM 04-19-2016
I can really see both angles here. In one moment, Chuck is a douchebag that treats Jimmy like a stupid dog. The other angle is that he's absolutely right for trying to get His client back. Jimmy cuts corners and commited a felony.
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Chiefspants 10:05 AM 04-19-2016
I don't believe Jimmy is dead to rights here.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jimmy goes guns a blazin' to get Chuck committed. He'd have the support of Chuck's doctors, and could write off that recording as him playing along with a delusional fantasy. Getting Chuck committed could ruin both HHM and the McGill name, necessitating the advent of Saul (in more ways than one).
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Sure-Oz 10:08 AM 04-19-2016
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
I don't believe Jimmy is dead to rights here.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jimmy goes guns a blazin' to get Chuck committed. He'd have the support of Chuck's doctors, and could write off that recording as him playing along with a delusional fantasy. Getting Chuck committed could ruin both HHM and the McGill name, necessitating the advent of Saul (in more ways than one).
Hmm..."your word against mine'
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chiefzilla1501 10:15 AM 04-19-2016
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
I don't believe Jimmy is dead to rights here.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jimmy goes guns a blazin' to get Chuck committed. He'd have the support of Chuck's doctors, and could write off that recording as him playing along with a delusional fantasy. Getting Chuck committed could ruin both HHM and the McGill name, necessitating the advent of Saul (in more ways than one).
That would be Jimmy breaking bad. There's no evidence he would do this. He sabotaged chuck to save Kim not because he wanted revenge. He twice had the choice to save his ass or save his brother. Both times he picked his brother. If Jimmy does that that's a huge change in his character.
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BucEyedPea 10:22 AM 04-19-2016
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Gus Fring.
Exactly!

MY so was questioning that last night, and it's who I came up with.
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BucEyedPea 10:25 AM 04-19-2016
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
Would love to see this...wish they had more episodes .
I can't believe it. That was the end for this season. I was like wtf? That's all?
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notorious 10:33 AM 04-19-2016
Jimmy played it pretty well, I bet he knew Chuck was listening......


The way he kept saying something like "But you feel better, right?"


He can just say that he was desperate to help his brother get out of the funk and lied to him.
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notorious 10:36 AM 04-19-2016
Is anyone beginning to realize how many lives Walter White fucked up?


Gus, Mike, Saul. These guys had it made, and are good at their craft. The new guy Walter comes in, thinks he knows better, and fucks it ALL up.
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Buehler445 10:40 AM 04-19-2016
Originally Posted by notorious:
Is anyone beginning to realize how many lives Walter White fucked up?


Gus, Mike, Saul. These guys had it made, and are good at their craft. The new guy Walter comes in, thinks he knows better, and fucks it ALL up.
Pinkman, Hank.
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notorious 10:41 AM 04-19-2016
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Pinkman, Hank.
Everybody except himself.
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Anyong Bluth 12:02 PM 04-19-2016
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Gus Fring.
Has to be. The man in the shadows whose meticulousl enough to watch whose watching his associates.

The anagram obviously is the easter egg, and Gus is not the aleatory type.
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