Originally Posted by ScareCrowe:
Wow are these people dense. They're basically saying it would be worthless to tape only the sideline because you wouldn't know what play it related to in the game. As if they couldn't piece together a frame of reference from one of the many replays available to them & then just follow play by play. The willful ignorance is amazing.
Yup. If it's worthless why risk doing it. Obviously the Pats are getting something out of it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by crayzkirk:
The Kareem Hunt video was released without permission. The Ray Rice video was released without permission. What is the big deal here? Why not let the people, the fans who buy tickets, merchandise and the products they advertise, decide if this is just an innocent mistake?
With Hunt and Rice- the tape proved the crime.
In this case- they were caught Red-Handed taping the sideline. They had zero business doing it other than to steal plays. The crime is already substantiated by witnesses and their own admission of guilt.
Now they are trying to move the goalpost to make it just about the content on the tape. :-) [Reply]
Everyone keeps assuming that they are just looking at signals. We have no idea what exactly they are looking for, but they were clearly looking at something that they must think is valuable. [Reply]
It doesn't matter if coaches signals are on the tape or not. Did they tape the sideline? If so, that is illegal. Whether or not they successfully gathered good information is not relevant. [Reply]
If the Pats could get these signals from any other video then why go to great lengths at the risk of getting caught to tape a 1-win team. They are obviously getting something really useful out of this. Starting to think stealing signs is a smoke screen for something bigger. In the end, it doesn't even fucking matter. It's obvious they were filming for the wrong reasons. It shouldn't matter how valuable that info is to them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Beef Supreme:
It doesn't matter if coaches signals are on the tape or not. Did they tape the sideline? If so, that is illegal. Whether or not they successfully gathered good information is not relevant.
Exactly.
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Videotaping your opponents offensive and defensive signals during a game is not prohibited by the league, even today. However, there are places in the stadium where you are allowed and not allowed to film from. According to the 2007 NFL Game Operations Manual, legal game videotaping locations "must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead."
Nor is filming from the rooftop of another building nearby in the rules either. That's outside the jurisdiction of the NFL to my knowledge. Nor is climbing a telephone pole...though climbing a telephone is illegal when it comes to other laws. [Reply]
Nor is filming from the rooftop of another building nearby in the rules either. That's outside the jurisdiction of the NFL to my knowledge. Nor is climbing a telephone pole...though climbing a telephone is illegal when it comes to other laws.
The Patriots admitted they broke the rules. Their defense is that it was unintentional. But that doesn't matter. They broke the rules. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Beef Supreme:
The Patriots admitted they broke the rules. Their defense is that it was unintentional. But that doesn't matter. They broke the rules.
Yes, he did not deny it. BB's defense was that he interpreted the rule as to meaning footage video'd could not be used during that game but after. That's why he said it was unintentional. However, rule was vague, and thus led to it being clarified. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
BB's defense was that he interpreted the rule as to meaning footage could not be used during that game. That's why he said it was unintentional. However, rule was vague, and thus led to it being clarified.
Uh huh So Belichick didn't know the rules? I'm sorry but that's completely laughable. He probably knew nothing about the Tuck rule too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
If the Pats could get these signals from any other video then why go to great lengths at the risk of getting caught to tape a 1-win team. They are obviously getting something really useful out of this. Starting to think stealing signs is a smoke screen for something bigger. In the end, it doesn't even ****ing matter. It's obvious they were filming for the wrong reasons. It shouldn't matter how valuable that info is to them.
Conjecture and innuendo stemming from PatsDerangementSyndrome. PDS It's what happens when emotion or hate overules reason.
You have no evidence for their reasons. [Reply]
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In addition to filming the scout, the production crew – without specific knowledge of League rules – inappropriately filmed the field from the press box.
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Conjecture and innuendo stemming from PatsDerangementSyndrome. PDS It's what happens when emotion or hate overules reason.
You have no evidence for their reasons.
