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Nzoner's Game Room>Official 2017 STL Cardinals Thread
BigRedChief 08:06 PM 01-27-2017
My as well get it started. Here's my "Matheny" lineup.....

Fowler CF
Diaz SS
Carpenter 1B
Piscotty RF
Grichuk LF
Molina C
Peralta 3B
Wong 2B
Pitcher

My "Matheny" Starting rotation

Martinez
Reyes
Wainwright
Lynn
Leake
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'Hamas' Jenkins 09:23 PM 06-08-2017
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Whats it been the last 2 years? Make sure to include this season.
2016: 3.2 (60th despite missing 33 games) with a 135 wRC (16th)
2017: 0.4 with a 108 wRC

Yeah, he's been just a little above average this year, over a third of a season as a sample. That's a long way from saying that he sucks, when since becoming a regular player he's been one of the most valuable players in baseball.
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Marcellus 09:30 PM 06-08-2017
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
2016: 3.2 (60th despite missing 33 games) with a 135 wRC (16th)
2017: 0.4 with a 108 wRC

Yeah, he's been just a little above average this year, over a third of a season as a sample. That's a long way from saying that he sucks, when since becoming a regular player he's been one of the most valuable players in baseball.
Above average this year hitting .210 with a .409 SLG and a .709 OPS? Well thats absolute proof that the metrics are complete garbage. I guess Matt Adams is way above average then.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 09:45 PM 06-08-2017
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Above average this year hitting .210 with a .409 SLG and a .709 OPS? Well thats absolute proof that the metrics are complete garbage. I guess Matt Adams is way above average then.
His OPS is .771. League average is .700. That is, by definition, above average.
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jd1020 10:13 PM 06-08-2017
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
His OPS is .771. League average is .700. That is, by definition, above average.
League average is .740. It was .739 last season. 2014 was the last year it was .700 and 1992 before that.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/bat.shtml

Pretty crazy. The HR's are on pace to be higher than any single year of the steroid era.
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Marcellus 07:24 AM 06-09-2017
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
His OPS is .771. League average is .700. That is, by definition, above average.
Well awesome, he is a "slightly" above average MLB hitter (playing position traditionally reserved for power hitters), a less than average fielder, and a completely shitty base runner. Well worth the $$.
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Miles 01:59 PM 06-09-2017
Peralta just got DFA'd.
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bdj23 02:02 PM 06-09-2017
Originally Posted by Miles:
Peralta just got DFA'd.
Thank god.

Cecil next pls

(I know that won't happen)
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Marcellus 02:06 PM 06-09-2017
Originally Posted by Miles:
Peralta just got DFA'd.
Maloney got reassigned as well as a few other coaching staff changes.

Originally Posted by :
The Cardinals made several coaching changes to reassess and rethink manager Mike Matheny's staff in the wake of a disappointing start to the season.

The Cardinals reassigned third-base coach Chris Maloney within the organization, and Mike Shildt will move from the quality control coach to the third-base coach box. Bill Mueller took a recent leave of absence, and he will not return to the same role as assistant hitting coach. Mark Budaska will take over in that role.

Ron "Pop" Warner will also join the coaching staff.

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Frazod 02:37 PM 06-09-2017
Originally Posted by Miles:
Peralta just got DFA'd.
Thank God.


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jd1020 02:39 PM 06-09-2017
Originally Posted by Miles:
Peralta just got DFA'd.

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DJ's left nut 02:40 PM 06-09-2017
The team can't hit, can't field, rarely pitches well and has the focus of a gerbil.

So let's publicly execute the 3b coach.

That's a bush league move, IMO. I don't care about reassigning him; there's a better than average chance that he isn't good at that job. But let's be fair, people thought Oquendo was awful over there as well - it's just a completely thankless task. He probably isn't as bad as we think.

And he damn sure isn't the problem. Calling a presser to fire him is poor form.
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DJ's left nut 02:42 PM 06-09-2017
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Thank God.

That was our cleanup hitter to start the season, y'all.

But yeah, let's publicly vivisect the 3b coach and not the fucking drooling idiot that has no concept of who may or may not still be a productive ballplayer and/or the guy that assembled this collection of stiffs that said drooling idiot has to work with.
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Marcellus 02:52 PM 06-09-2017
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
That was our cleanup hitter to start the season, y'all.

But yeah, let's publicly vivisect the 3b coach and not the ****ing drooling idiot that has no concept of who may or may not still be a productive ballplayer and/or the guy that assembled this collection of stiffs that said drooling idiot has to work with.
Maloney was a God awful 3rd base coach. Terrible isn't even the word for it.

You cant fire everyone at once but you have to do something.
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jd1020 02:57 PM 06-09-2017
What if Mozeliak did a murder suicide by firing Matheny and then resigning?
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Frazod 03:11 PM 06-09-2017
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Maloney was a God awful 3rd base coach. Terrible isn't even the word for it.

You cant fire everyone at once but you have to do something.
I was about to post pretty much this.

Baby steps.
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