Originally Posted by FringeNC:
Most HOFers played in a different era. The average QB in the NFL today has a rating of about 90. A few years back in his prime, Eli had a season with a rating of 69.4 in this pass happy era.
Technically... no, realistically, you're not correct. There are 11 times a QB ended the season with a league leading best over 80, none greater than 88.5 (Brady in 2007).
And, those 11 ratings over 80 belong to:
Brady (1), Peyton (3), Brees (3), Rodgers (1), Garrard (1), L Jackson (1), Mahomes (1) ... the 11 greatest QBRs in a season belong to 7 QBs, all of whom have careers that benefited by primarily playing in the last 20 years of the pass-happy NFL.
The highest QBR since 2012 was 2019, Lamar Jackson with 81.10.
If Eli Manning was any good, he would have succeeded in San Diego. Instead, his daddy pulled him from the team to put him onto a stronger team that could carry him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
Technically... no, realistically, you're not correct. There are 11 times a QB ended the season with a league leading best over 80, none greater than 88.5 (Brady in 2007).
And, those 11 ratings over 80 belong to:
Brady (1), Peyton (3), Brees (3), Rodgers (1), Garrard (1), L Jackson (1), Mahomes (1) ... the 11 greatest QBRs in a season belong to 7 QBs, all of whom have careers that benefited by primarily playing in the last 20 years of the pass-happy NFL.
The highest QBR since 2012 was 2019, Lamar Jackson with 81.10.
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
Championships are ALL that matter.
lol Okay... So lets remove Barry Sanders and Dan Marino and replace them with Trent Dilfer and some shitter RB from a super bowl team?
because Championships, right?
The HoF should be about being the best of the best at an individual level. If players want to celebrate "Championships", they have a Ring and a Trophy to stare at... but not a Bust. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
lol Okay... So lets remove Barry Sanders and Dan Marino and replace them with Trent Dilfer and some shitter RB from a super bowl team?
because Championships, right?
The HoF should be about being the best of the best at an individual level. If players want to celebrate "Championships", they have a Ring and a Trophy to stare at... but not a Bust.
Yeah, I would propose that Derrick Thomas is a legitimate a Hall of Famer. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
lol Okay... So lets remove Barry Sanders and Dan Marino and replace them with Trent Dilfer and some shitter RB from a super bowl team?
because Championships, right?
The HoF should be about being the best of the best at an individual level. If players want to celebrate "Championships", they have a Ring and a Trophy to stare at... but not a Bust.
The NFL long ago threw that rule out the window when they started voting in the simply very good, like Floyd Little.
Eli Manning is a borderline case. If it had simply been just the one year where he caught fire and played well in the post season and won a Superbowl, I think he'd have no argument for getting in.
But since he did it twice, and actually played well in other playoff appearances, he's pushed up to that Hall of Very Good that it really is these days. [Reply]