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Dayze 10:30 AM 11-22-2019
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
It is a pretty good deal after buying anything with green paint on it.

Not to go off on a rant here (for you young kids out there YouTube Dennis Miller Live), but a 40K pickup is a hell of a deal compared to a 450K Combine or 350K tractor. Sure, it's not doing the same work as those machines, but you know what a 40K pickup does do well? ****ing sensors. My pickup, which was engineered for soccer moms on paved roads that I'm driving in the field, has ECU, fuel, exhaust and all the other bullshit sensors too, except they work. Goddamned Deere (and CNH too FWIW) is engineered to be in the field and can't keep sensors running. **** that pisses me right the **** off. /rant

tl;dr: If you don't like the price of new pickups, go price new Deere paint.

:-)
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CasselGotPeedOn 12:10 PM 11-22-2019
Originally Posted by stevieray:
I can't believe people are conditioned to think 40k for a vehicle is a good deal.
Lemme guess, when you were a kid you could get a truck for a nickel?
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stevieray 06:25 PM 11-22-2019
Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn:
Lemme guess, when you were a kid you could get a truck for a nickel?
$2500

just like most of the muscle cars, too.
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ljmhawk 08:15 PM 11-22-2019
Originally Posted by stevieray:
$2500

just like most of the muscle cars, too.
my dad bought a brand new 1970 Dodge Challenger for $3,300 and it came with A/C. vehicles prices now are outrageous. and good luck finding an excellent used truck under $20k
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WhawhaWhat 08:28 PM 11-22-2019
Originally Posted by ljmhawk:
my dad bought a brand new 1970 Dodge Challenger for $3,300 and it came with A/C. vehicles prices now are outrageous. and good luck finding an excellent used truck under $20k
$3300 in 1970 adjusted for inflation is about $23,000 in 2019. A base level Dodge Challenger in 2019 costs around $23,000.
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Dartgod 07:35 AM 11-22-2019
That thing is FUGLY
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vailpass 07:45 AM 11-22-2019
What part of that ugly thing is a truck?
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Perineum Ripper 07:59 AM 11-22-2019


First thing I thought of was a lifted modern version of the DeLorean
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Dunerdr 08:24 AM 11-22-2019
honestly with a different body on it he could probably storm the mall crawler market at that price. but its so damn ugly and doesnt appear to be super functional as a truck, sort of like a ridgeline or an avalanche.
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BigBeauford 08:30 AM 11-22-2019
They really fucked this up. I love how crazy Musk is, his brand, but they should have stuck to a similar design language with their other vehicles (which is great).
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GloryDayz 09:38 AM 11-22-2019
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
They really fucked this up. I love how crazy Musk is, his brand, but they should have stuck to a similar design language with their other vehicles (which is great).
I tend to agree. Had he gone the route of making it look like something most of us drive these days, he might of hit one out of the park. If it can tow a boat, carry some lumber or mulch, and make it through the woods during deer season, and go 300-400 miles between charges, a hell of a lot of consumers in the 14-18mpg "F150/1500" crowd would probably be all over it.

But yeah, it filling the roles that the F250/2500 "farm" crowd does seems like a huge leap.
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Buehler445 10:06 AM 11-22-2019
Originally Posted by Lzen:
Ummmm....have you priced trucks lately? 30-40k is normal.
Have you priced pickups lately?

30 will get you a 3 year old 30K half ton that doesn't have warranty at a LT or maybe LTZ trim package.

notorious is driving a 3/4 diesel. I don't know what trim package he had - and that definitely matters, but I'd bet he's in the neighborhood of 60K if he bought it new.

I don't mean to speak out of turn for notorious, but those are the numbers I've found.
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Lzen 02:00 PM 11-22-2019
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Have you priced pickups lately?

30 will get you a 3 year old 30K half ton that doesn't have warranty at a LT or maybe LTZ trim package.

notorious is driving a 3/4 diesel. I don't know what trim package he had - and that definitely matters, but I'd bet he's in the neighborhood of 60K if he bought it new.

I don't mean to speak out of turn for notorious, but those are the numbers I've found.
Ok, I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that you could buy almost 2 Chevys or whatever for that price.
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Buehler445 02:05 PM 11-22-2019
Originally Posted by Lzen:
Ok, I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that you could buy almost 2 Chevys or whatever for that price.
Yeah, new 2500 Diesels are damned high dollar.
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Buehler445 10:11 AM 11-22-2019
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
I tend to agree. Had he gone the route of making it look like something most of us drive these days, he might of hit one out of the park. If it can tow a boat, carry some lumber or mulch, and make it through the woods during deer season, and go 300-400 miles between charges, a hell of a lot of consumers in the 14-18mpg "F150/1500" crowd would probably be all over it.

But yeah, it filling the roles that the F250/2500 "farm" crowd does seems like a huge leap.
Eh, I don't know, I think it said it had an air suspension and electric can produce torque far more efficiently than gas or diesel, braking shouldn't be a problem with an electric, as long as the frame and lugbolts and shit can hold itself together (/not an engineer), it makes good sense for a pickup. I can't make the leap for tractors, but I can get there on pickups.

At least mine, that I run in the garage at night, and 75% no payload except 700 lb or so of tools and a compressor.
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