I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.
Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
You don't need good mechanics or fundamentals to beat shitty teams with shitty players. There have been a bunch of QBs in air raid systems that dominated and had similar stats to him, what separates him from them? Posted via Mobile Device
Arm strength and natural ability would be what I'd imagine they'd say about his projection to the next level.
I personally have no real qualms about drafting any of these QB's at this point. I doubt the Chiefs take one. [Reply]
BTW... FWIW, I happen to like Kyle Sloter out of Northern Colorado a whole bunch. I know its a huge step in competition, but I think the kid deserves a flier late. Climbs the pocket, throws the ball on a rope, athletic, can throw on the run, very quick release and nice footwork/motion. [Reply]
Wow those of you who want Webb and petterman are asking for smith, Bray, hogan Muarry . Ok QBs but none that can win you ball games by themselves I'm all in on Kizer , Mahomes, or Watson [Reply]
Watson is the QB I want. I don't think he makes it past the Texans though. The Raiders have the pick right before Houston and they're not a realistic trade partner. The New York Giants at 23 hold a pick worth 760 points according to the trade value chart. KC could package their first and their compensatory 3rd round pick and come up with 766 points. That would be pretty cool if he slipped to 23. Letting Sean Smith walk would have essentially bought us Deshaun Watson. [Reply]
Originally Posted by maninthemiddle:
Watson is the QB I want. I don't think he makes it past the Texans though. The Raiders have the pick right before Houston and they're not a realistic trade partner. The New York Giants at 23 hold a pick worth 760 points according to the trade value chart. KC could package their first and their compensatory 3rd round pick and come up with 766 points. That would be pretty cool if he slipped to 23. Letting Sean Smith walk would have essentially bought us Deshaun Watson.
Idk, something about Watson's final year makes me not really want to touch him in the 1st. Yeah they won the ship, but I think he might be a case of great college QB, mediocre pro QB. [Reply]
As much as I love Deshaun Watson, if KC passed on a QB in the first couple rounds, this is the guy I want as a developmental prospect. Chiefs were in attendance for his pro day.
Here is the url for the video of his pro day reps (I don't have link privileges as a newb to the forum -- if someone else wanted to embed, by all means..) >>
youtu(dot)be/VBKR_AxGPOo
I love his footwork and accuracy (granted its against air). He also looked very good in the East-West Shrine game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Josh Rosen was a Freshman this year. He didn't technically red-shirt in 2015, he merely early-enrolled in classes (Jan) and played spring ball. He has 2016 as his first year of playing. There is far from any guarantee he declares as a Sophomore.
Sam Darnold was a red-shirt Freshman last year. Like Rosen, he has one good year and everyone is claiming to bank for him in 2018. There's no guarantee Darnold declares either. To be quite frank, it's not a regular occurrence that QB's declare before they complete their Junior season.
Luke Falk is your top legitimate prospect, as he'll be red-shirt Senior coming out of Washington State's uptempo offense.
Mason Rudolph is going to be your next top prospect, assuming he continues his ascent coming off his Junior season into his Senior season. He has a solid resume and great arm, but is also coming out of one of those "fancy" spread offenses.
Jake Browning is coming into his true Junior year, so he may be more likely to declare than Rosen or Darnold. We'll have to see what shakes out there and if there's any drop off after his shoulder surgery on his throwing arm following the playoffs this year.
Tanner Magnum, well he's kind of what we have in this draft so far and he's going to be old coming out of BYU. He had a gray-shirt, then 2 years of mission work. He was the back up to Hill, but Hill got hurt and he put up a great year. However, he didn't keep the job for this season, as Hill was again named the starter. Magnum played the season finale and the bowl game after Hill went down again. If he has a great final year, he could see some early round talk, but that's no guarantee. He'll be 24 coming out and would be 25 when the season starts in the NFL.
Baker Mayfield... He kind of reminds me of Chase Daniel, and I'm not so certain he's going to be a top name guy come the draft. Plus, he just hurt the shit out of his stock with his drunk/flee/arrest situation in Arkansas. We'll see there.
Some other notable seniors that will be in the mix
Max Browne (Pitt) - Transfer from USC
Mike White (Western Kentucky)
Quinton Flowers (South Florida)
Jeremiah Briscoe (Sam Houston State)
Other Notable Underclassmen that could declare
Lamar Jackson (Louisville)
Josh Allen (Wyoming)
Nick Fitzgerald (Miss. State)
Overall...Seniors alone...a more impressive class than 2017. Two or more of those underclassmen declare and it blows 2017 out the water, especially if Allen and either Darnold or Rosen declare.
This isn't to say wait til next year though. Dorsey hails from the Ron Wolf school of team building which dictates drafting a QB every year. He will likely draft one this year. But overall, the 2018 class is looking special. [Reply]