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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Hammock Parties 10:18 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by SupDock:
There's no penalty?
Long as it's below $950 you can get away with it.

Cops aren't coming.
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KChiefs1 10:19 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Philly and now San Francisco.


Why didn’t somebody kick their asses?

Pussies
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bobbything 10:19 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
feck

Increases in testing was bound to highlight this. It’s either we don’t test and tell everyone we have 23 cases, or we test and get an accurate number.

These numbers shouldn’t shock anyone, really.

By this time next week we will likely be north if 60k. The revelation of those numbers is good thing though. It gives us a better idea of who has it and how to squash it.
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SupDock 10:22 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Long as it's below $950 you can get away with it.

Cops aren't coming.
What does this have to do with the thread? I am confused. That CA law is not new

They downgraded theft under 950 to a misdemeanor to reduce jail crowding. Police not responding is a different problem.
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Fat Elvis 10:25 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by bobbything:
Increases in testing was bound to highlight this. It’s either we don’t test and tell everyone we have 23 cases, or we test and get an accurate number.

These numbers shouldn’t shock anyone, really.

By this time next week we will likely be north if 60k. The revelation of those numbers is good thing though. It gives us a better idea of who has it and how to squash it.
A) Those numbers don't match what is coming out of John Hopkins
B) If the rate of increase holds steady (+~38% today from John Hopkins stats), we'll hit 60K by Tuesday
C) Those numbers are only for those tested, actual numbers will be much higher (but much lower severity, on average)
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Hammock Parties 10:26 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by SupDock:
What does this have to do with the thread? I am confused. That CA law is not new
The cops aren't coming out for anything under $950 because of COVID-19.
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Fat Elvis 10:28 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
The cops aren't coming out for anything under $950 because of COVID-19.
Wrong. They weren't coming before. Take this shit to DC.
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SupDock 10:28 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
The cops aren't coming out for anything under $950 because of COVID-19.
People have been complaining about Prop 47 and police response since the law passed. I am done derailing the thread though, so whatever
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PAChiefsGuy 10:29 PM 03-20-2020
Hospitals in NY already getting overcrowded.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronav...ed-11584719908
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DaFace 10:30 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by SupDock:
People have been complaining about Prop 47 and police response since the law passed. I am done derailing the thread though, so whatever
He thrives on fringe cases that seem dire.
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Hammock Parties 10:31 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by Fat Elvis:
Wrong. They weren't coming before. Take this shit to DC.
No, it's true.

Due to the coronavirus crisis, Philadelphia police will no longer be making arrests for all narcotics offenses, theft from persons, retail theft, theft from auto, burglary, vandalism, bench warrants, stolen autos, economic crimes such as passing bad checks, fraud, & prostitution. pic.twitter.com/R2OZSPMKHO

— Rob O'Donnell (@odonnell_r) March 17, 2020

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bobbything 10:33 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by Fat Elvis:
A) Those numbers don't match what is coming out of John Hopkins
B) If the rate of increase holds steady (+~38% today from John Hopkins stats), we'll hit 60K by Tuesday
C) Those numbers are only for those tested, actual numbers will be much higher (but much lower severity, on average)
Yep...exactly what I have been saying. Actual infections vs confirmed infections are very far apart. My point is that these numbers are used (or interpreted) as scare tactics and come across as “new” cases when in reality they’re just confirming what we already know.
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Chief Pagan 10:34 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by AustinChief:
Let me give you a completely made up but plausible scenario. Let's say that the people between 0 and 54 ignore all the advice and put themselves at much higher risk. This activity results in 50x (all made up figures here, just to prove a point) as many cases in that particular age group. So in a certain geographical area you have 1000 people who are 54+ infected and 50,000 people <54 infected. 124 people from the 54+ group end up hospitalized. 76 people from the <54 group end up hospitalized.

OMG !!!! 38%are under 54!!!! Yes. and they represent .152% of the people infected from their age group.
If 76 people from the <54 group end up hospitalized they are taking up 76 hospital beds and some number of ventilators and nursing and other staff time.

In normal times maybe that would only be an issue for their finances and their insurance company.

If we get to the point where Italy is now, of having to decide who gets black arm bands and are left to die, then I agree it time for us to say:

OMG!!!
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BossChief 11:04 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
No, it's true.

That can’t be real.
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Hammock Parties 11:10 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by BossChief:
That can’t be real.
The videos of looting from Philly and San Francisco are certainly real.

As is this.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...tlaw-Memo.html

And this.

Originally Posted by :
Among the outlets that have reported on the city’s new protocols is the Philadelphia Inquirer, which published the internal memo listing the now arrest-free non-violent crimes. “One day after Philadelphia courts closed until April 1 to limit the spread of the coronavirus, Police Commissioner Danielle Outlaw notified commanders Tuesday that police will be delaying arrests for nonviolent crimes, including drug offenses, theft, and prostitution,” the Inquirer reported.

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