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Nzoner's Game Room>Fire Bob Sutton
petegz28 10:12 PM 10-19-2017
That is all.
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petegz28 06:19 AM 12-14-2018
Originally Posted by Aspengc8:
Obviously because you can't scheme around a shit secondary. Secondary played a lot better in the first half when Berry was fixing the shell and reminding them of who covers who (not to mention he can tackle).
Yeah, as a DC for the Chiefs for 5 years, Sutton owns several historic leg shits by a defense but yeah, it's always the players.
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Jimmya 06:20 AM 12-14-2018
So Berry has to be fixing the shell.... The DC can't coach the shell after 10 games, that's on the DC!
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Pushead2 06:20 AM 12-14-2018
Remember when the Jets fired Sutton and went from the 19th best defense to the number 1 defense the next year? Good times....
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chiefzilla1501 06:23 AM 12-14-2018
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
The talent has been a crutch for his terrible schemes. The talent isn't there anymore and now he's bottom 3.
I don't entirely agree with that. His defense wasnt nearly this bad even when we kept losing Hali, Houston, berry, dj to injury. Even when we were starting Fleming and Gaines.

I think Suttons incompetence is more due to Sutton having no idea how to adjust to the NFL every year increasing emphasis on pass interference.
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Jimmya 06:23 AM 12-14-2018
Agree with Push... The freaking Jets reassigned his butt from DC to linebackers.... Thats all I need to know about this guy.... NFL Network "it's almost maddening to see the chiefs NOT blitz Rivers in the 2nd half, it's not like he's a mobile QB"
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Aspengc8 06:24 AM 12-14-2018
Originally Posted by Jimmya:
So Berry has to be fixing the shell.... The DC can't coach the shell after 10 games, that's on the DC!
You can only lead the horse to the water. The blown coverages they have is insane, look at the 2-pt play. Thats a simple 2x2 switch when receivers are in a nasty split + compressed. You can coach them up all you want, but if they are not retaining the info what else can you do? They played so much better in the first half that its hard not to see how much of an influence Berry has in adjusting the scheme on the field and/or reminding people who to cover.
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ILChief 06:27 AM 12-14-2018
Originally Posted by Aspengc8:
You can only lead the horse to the water. The blown coverages they have is insane, look at the 2-pt play. Thats a simple 2x2 switch when receivers are in a nasty split + compressed. You can coach them up all you want, but if they are not retaining the info what else can you do?
We've turned the defense over personnel wise probably 99 percent since he's been here. Players they were good on other teams come here and are instant trash
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ILChief 06:29 AM 12-14-2018
There were a ton of really good DC candidates we could have hired this year too
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GloryDayz 06:31 AM 12-14-2018
Originally Posted by ping2000:
There are tapes. There has to be. Probably Andy freaking out at Country Buffet and eating a child he thought was a rib. Bob has tapes.
Let's not forget how much this team quietly cares... They just don't express much publicity. So Andy, after closing his door, broke two #2 pencils in half. He was really that mad. Bob drank warm milk and went to bed.

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Jimmya 06:33 AM 12-14-2018
Agree Wil IL Chief... Plenty of player turnover to not blame the DC.... A few commentators saying "we've had coordinators already fired, but I'm not surprised with Andy's history.".... Everyone knows what happened in Philadelphia. His refusal to fire Castillo is what cost Andy his job
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ILChief 06:54 AM 12-14-2018
Look what Kris Richard has done for Dallas. He was available. We need a DC with some fire. Bob just stands there looking like the old guy that was Perot's running mate during the VP debate
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Baby Lee 06:59 AM 12-14-2018
Originally Posted by ILChief:
Bob just stands there looking like the old guy that was Perot's running mate during the VP debate
Over the line, Smokey

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Jimmya 06:59 AM 12-14-2018
Lol... Perot's running mate... EXACTLY
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ILChief 07:02 AM 12-14-2018

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GloryDayz 07:09 AM 12-14-2018
Originally Posted by ILChief:
There were a ton of really good DC candidates we could have hired this year too
I think the Chiefs have resigned themselves to the mindset that they can't blame Bob (either) because they focused on putting together a high-scoring offense (:-)), and Bob's best player was unavailable for two years until half of last night. In the Chiefs "we're the league's nice team" way, that means you can't blame Bob.

Simply put, the Chiefs hardly ever "blame" anybody, that's a game they'll other teams do, but they aren't playing that game. They're determined to be known around the league as the team that's attractive because they're loyal, even if to a fault.

Bob's job is safe, at least until the end of the year when, I thought I heard, his contract is up. Hunt's not going to let him go and give one of his assistants a shot. Even though we know it can't get worse.
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