Originally Posted by Superturtle:
"What is it they think the league can do?" one owner wondered. "We have been fully supportive."
"If we stop playing today," one front-office executive asked his players on Wednesday, "is that changing anything in the world? Will everyone else in the world just move on, and then will we lose our platforms?"
Another executive said, "The question we asked our players: What do you hope to accomplish by not playing the games? The answers were very different. I think that's something everyone is still formulating for themselves. What's the endgame here, and does not playing accomplish it?"
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Paul called on the players to come away from the meeting with a unified front, with plans of action and with a clear understanding of the financial perils that might await the players and league if the season does not proceed to the finish.
Those effects could be "cataclysmic" in the words of one league executive. NBPA executive director Michele Roberts and senior counsel Ron Klempner, both of whom were on site in Orlando for Wednesday's meeting, explained that if the players decide not to play the remainder of the season, they could lose 25-30% of their salary for next year. The league could also terminate the collective bargaining agreement and lock out the players while terms of a new CBA are negotiated under the economic and societal duress of the pandemic.
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Find where I said that.
The country is so damn divided that neither side will even listen to the other at this point about anything.
Literally the only thing you mentioned was the dude. You very notably didn't say anything about anybody else.
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
I’m not going to get into this here, but if you don’t think Trump has been purposefully dividing the country over the past five years (he’s basically now run two separate political campaigns with that goal in mind), you’re not paying much attention.
I'll leave it there. I goddamned hate politics so fucking much I feel dirty even typing out ShiftT-r-u-m-p.
But I can't in good conscious not push back if there claims of systemic racism. I just don't see it. And if all this is based on a super-wrong assumption, I just can't sit back and agree lock stock and barrel.
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Literally the only thing you mentioned was the dude. You very notably didn't say anything about anybody else.
Stating that Trump has divided the country is simply a fact (and I don't know why saying something so obvious would upset anybody). But stating it also doesn't mean nobody else on the other side has contributed to that (or that they're aren't various other reasons for it).
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Stating that Trump has divided the country is simply a fact. But stating it also doesn't mean nobody else on the other side has contributed to that.
No, it's not a fact and actually totally wrong. NOW, if you want to say unable to bring the country together then that would be a fact.
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
No, it's not a fact and actually totally wrong. NOW, if you want to say unable to bring the country together then that would be a fact.
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Nobody said it did either, but it certainly has got a hell of a lot worse since then.
A hell of a lot worse?
The only thing that has really changed is how much the media talks about it. Cops were killing black dudes at pretty much the same clip in 2012 but it wasn't convenient to blame a sitting black president for that.