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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Trump tells GOP to back border emergency, but defeat likely
Donger 10:08 AM 03-14-2019
https://apnews.com/57d35e5635dd47b3a736d2fbe0066e05

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican opposition grew Thursday to President Donald Trump’s declaration of a national emergency at the southwest border as the Senate chugged toward a showdown vote that seemed certain to rebuff him despite his last-minute warnings.

GOP Sens. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Mitt Romney of Utah Romney became the sixth and seventh Republicans to say they’d vote Thursday for a resolution to annul the border emergency Trump declared last month.

Just four GOP defections would ensure the measure would be sent to the White House, where Trump has promised a veto. There is no indication that foes of his declaration have the votes to overturn his veto, and Trump said as much at midday.

“It’s not going to be overturned,” he said firmly at the White House.

He did not answer when reporters asked if there would be consequences for Republicans who vote against him. But a White House official said Trump won’t forget when senators want him to attend fundraisers or provide other help. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly on internal deliberations.

Trump wants to use his declaration to steer $3.6 billion more than Congress has approved for building border barriers than Congress has approved.

Vice President Mike Pence toured a Customs and Border Protection training facility in West Virginia Wednesday. He thanked border agents for protecting the country and called on Congress to approve President Trump's border emergency declaration.

On the Senate floor, Alexander — one of the chamber’s more respected lawmakers — said Trump’s emergency action was “inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution that I took an oath to support,” citing the power Congress has to control spending. Romney, his party’s 2012 presidential nominee, used a written statement to called Trump’s declaration “an invitation to further expansion and abuse by future presidents.”

The defections by the two high-profile lawmakers added weight to the growing list of GOP opponents to his border emergency, and left little doubt that the Republican-run Senate would snub Trump. The challenge in a battle related to his signature issue — building barriers along the Mexican border — is striking.

On Twitter, Trump called on Republicans to oppose the resolution, which House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., helped drive through the House last month.

“Today’s issue is BORDER SECURITY and Crime!!! Don’t vote with Pelosi!” he tweeted, invoking the name of a Democrat who boatloads of GOP ads have villainized in recent campaign cycles.

Republicans had hoped that if Trump would endorse a separate bill by Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, constraining emergency declarations in the future, it would win over enough GOP senators to reject the resolution blocking his border emergency.

But Trump told Lee on Wednesday that he opposed Lee’s legislation, prompting Lee himself to say he would back the resolution thwarting the border emergency in Thursday’s vote. Trump tweeted Thursday if Congress wants to amend the law governing emergency declarations in the future, “I will support those efforts.”

Trump’s rejection of Lee’s proposal left many Republicans boxed in: defy Trump and the conservative voters who back him passionately, or assent to what many lawmakers from both parties consider a dubious and dangerous expansion of presidential authority.

Other GOP senators who’ve said they’d vote to overturn Trump’s border emergency were Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Rand Paul of Kentucky.

Tillis, though, has wavered in recent days. He and Collins face potentially competitive re-election fights in 2020.

Republicans control the Senate 53-47.

“Congress has been giving far too much legislative power to the executive branch,” Lee said. He said he’d vote to block Trump’s emergency because his own bill “does not have an immediate path forward.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who is backing Trump, went to the White House late Wednesday to see if some compromise could be reached that would help reduce the number of GOP senators opposing the border emergency, according to a person familiar with the visit who described it on condition of anonymity. Trump’s Thursday comments indicated the visit didn’t produce results.

Under a four-decade-old law, presidents have wide leeway in declaring a national emergency. Congress can vote to block a declaration, but the two-thirds majorities required to overcome presidential vetoes make it hard for lawmakers to prevail. Presidents have never before declared an emergency after Congress voted to deny them money for the same purpose.

Lee proposed letting a presidential emergency last 30 days unless Congress votes to extend it. That would have applied to future emergencies but not Trump’s current order unless he sought to renew it next year.

The strongest chance of blocking Trump is likely several lawsuits filed by Democratic state attorneys general, environmental groups and others.

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stumppy 09:12 PM 03-14-2019
Ain't it a shame. Trump had absolutely no warning about this emergency on our southern border until after his party lost control of the house. If only there'd been some kind of sign. Anything, any indication there was a growing problem down there.
If he only knew, then he could have had any reasonable response to the problem rubber stamped by the republican controlled congress.

Just a thought but his handling of this emergency should go a long way towards getting him the votes he deserves in 2020. Maybe he'll come up with some kind of slogan about it and get his supporters to chant it at his campaign rally's.
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BucEyedPea 09:26 PM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Replace Nancy Pelosi and Democrats with: Thom Tillis and Repukes
I don't know why he doesn't call some Republicans open-border Republicans.
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Prison Bitch 09:58 PM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
I don't know why he doesn't call some Republicans open-border Republicans.
He should.
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lostcause 03:59 AM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by stumppy:
Ain't it a shame. Trump had absolutely no warning about this emergency on our southern border until after his party lost control of the house. If only there'd been some kind of sign. Anything, any indication there was a growing problem down there.
If he only knew, then he could have had any reasonable response to the problem rubber stamped by the republican controlled congress.

Just a thought but his handling of this emergency should go a long way towards getting him the votes he deserves in 2020. Maybe he'll come up with some kind of slogan about it and get his supporters to chant it at his campaign rally's.
It's that kind of emergency that creeps up on you until Ann Coulter tells you it is. Then you suck at pulling it off, because you're a fucking idiot. And then you're scrambling to make anything look good - and then everyone on CP except PB still sucks your balls.
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patteeu 05:29 AM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by stumppy:
Ain't it a shame. Trump had absolutely no warning about this emergency on our southern border until after his party lost control of the house. If only there'd been some kind of sign. Anything, any indication there was a growing problem down there.
If he only knew, then he could have had any reasonable response to the problem rubber stamped by the republican controlled congress.
Your trolling is descending to Lex Luther levels. You realize this is all BS, right?
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Loneiguana 06:44 AM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by patteeu:
Your trolling is descending to Lex Luther levels. You realize this is all BS, right?
"Guys, Guys, Guys, it is totally easier to pass Trump's wall funding with a Democratic House than it would be with a Republican controlled House. That's why Trump had to wait 2 years. The Republican controlled House never would have went a long with wall funding nor an emergency declaration. By waiting 2 years to declare this emergency, Trump totally made it easier to get his funding.

That's why he waited 2 years. It's not because Trump is trying to manufacture a crisis for political gain after losing the House, its because Trump is a genius who is going to hit that bullseye, and the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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stumppy 06:56 AM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by patteeu:
Your trolling is descending to Lex Luther levels. You realize this is all BS, right?
Trolling? TROLLING?? :-)

I'm here for the laughs.
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stumppy 06:58 AM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by Loneiguana:
"Guys, Guys, Guys, it is totally easier to pass Trump's wall funding with a Democratic House than it would be with a Republican controlled House. That's why Trump had to wait 2 years. The Republican controlled House never would have went a long with wall funding nor an emergency declaration. By waiting 2 years to declare this emergency, Trump totally made it easier to get his funding.

That's why he waited 2 years. It's not because Trump is trying to manufacture a crisis for political gain after losing the House, its because Trump is a genius who is going to hit that bullseye, and the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
:-)

You could be right. This might have been his plan all along. GENIUS!!!
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Titty Meat 07:06 AM 03-15-2019
Funny seeing all these fake small government people in here saying the president should have unlimited power
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RodeoPants2 08:59 PM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by stumppy:
Ain't it a shame. Trump had absolutely no warning about this emergency on our southern border until after his party lost control of the house. If only there'd been some kind of sign. Anything, any indication there was a growing problem down there.
If he only knew, then he could have had any reasonable response to the problem rubber stamped by the republican controlled congress.

Just a thought but his handling of this emergency should go a long way towards getting him the votes he deserves in 2020. Maybe he'll come up with some kind of slogan about it and get his supporters to chant it at his campaign rally's.
Alternately, he could have accepted the stupid deal the democrats offered him. If this was something he actually cared about, he would have given something up to make it happen
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RodeoPants2 09:00 PM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by patteeu:
Your trolling is descending to Lex Luther levels. You realize this is all BS, right?
Is your position here that it didn't get any harder for trump to pass his asinine wall after he got whomped in the midterms and lost the house?
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mlyonsd 09:15 PM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
Alternately, he could have accepted the stupid deal the democrats offered him. If this was something he actually cared about, he would have given something up to make it happen
You are correct in that it was a stupid deal the democrats offered that did more harm than good.
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patteeu 02:46 AM 03-16-2019
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
Is your position here that it didn't get any harder for trump to pass his asinine wall after he got whomped in the midterms and lost the house?
Trump didnít have the votes pre-election. If the GOP had retained the majority in the House and shown electoral strength in the elections, it would have been easier post-election. As it is, the results were mixed. You canít look at this with hindsight.
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BucEyedPea 06:28 AM 03-16-2019
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Funny seeing all these fake small government people in here saying the president should have unlimited power
Where have they called for unlimited power ?
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stumppy 08:21 AM 03-16-2019
Originally Posted by patteeu:
Trump didnít have the votes pre-election. If the GOP had retained the majority in the House and shown electoral strength in the elections, it would have been easier post-election. As it is, the results were mixed. You canít look at this with hindsight.
No, but you can look at it as it's the way our government works. This so bogus N.E. is an attempt to bypass that.
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