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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Trump tells GOP to back border emergency, but defeat likely
Donger 10:08 AM 03-14-2019
https://apnews.com/57d35e5635dd47b3a736d2fbe0066e05

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican opposition grew Thursday to President Donald Trump’s declaration of a national emergency at the southwest border as the Senate chugged toward a showdown vote that seemed certain to rebuff him despite his last-minute warnings.

GOP Sens. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Mitt Romney of Utah Romney became the sixth and seventh Republicans to say they’d vote Thursday for a resolution to annul the border emergency Trump declared last month.

Just four GOP defections would ensure the measure would be sent to the White House, where Trump has promised a veto. There is no indication that foes of his declaration have the votes to overturn his veto, and Trump said as much at midday.

“It’s not going to be overturned,” he said firmly at the White House.

He did not answer when reporters asked if there would be consequences for Republicans who vote against him. But a White House official said Trump won’t forget when senators want him to attend fundraisers or provide other help. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly on internal deliberations.

Trump wants to use his declaration to steer $3.6 billion more than Congress has approved for building border barriers than Congress has approved.

Vice President Mike Pence toured a Customs and Border Protection training facility in West Virginia Wednesday. He thanked border agents for protecting the country and called on Congress to approve President Trump's border emergency declaration.

On the Senate floor, Alexander — one of the chamber’s more respected lawmakers — said Trump’s emergency action was “inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution that I took an oath to support,” citing the power Congress has to control spending. Romney, his party’s 2012 presidential nominee, used a written statement to called Trump’s declaration “an invitation to further expansion and abuse by future presidents.”

The defections by the two high-profile lawmakers added weight to the growing list of GOP opponents to his border emergency, and left little doubt that the Republican-run Senate would snub Trump. The challenge in a battle related to his signature issue — building barriers along the Mexican border — is striking.

On Twitter, Trump called on Republicans to oppose the resolution, which House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., helped drive through the House last month.

“Today’s issue is BORDER SECURITY and Crime!!! Don’t vote with Pelosi!” he tweeted, invoking the name of a Democrat who boatloads of GOP ads have villainized in recent campaign cycles.

Republicans had hoped that if Trump would endorse a separate bill by Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, constraining emergency declarations in the future, it would win over enough GOP senators to reject the resolution blocking his border emergency.

But Trump told Lee on Wednesday that he opposed Lee’s legislation, prompting Lee himself to say he would back the resolution thwarting the border emergency in Thursday’s vote. Trump tweeted Thursday if Congress wants to amend the law governing emergency declarations in the future, “I will support those efforts.”

Trump’s rejection of Lee’s proposal left many Republicans boxed in: defy Trump and the conservative voters who back him passionately, or assent to what many lawmakers from both parties consider a dubious and dangerous expansion of presidential authority.

Other GOP senators who’ve said they’d vote to overturn Trump’s border emergency were Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Rand Paul of Kentucky.

Tillis, though, has wavered in recent days. He and Collins face potentially competitive re-election fights in 2020.

Republicans control the Senate 53-47.

“Congress has been giving far too much legislative power to the executive branch,” Lee said. He said he’d vote to block Trump’s emergency because his own bill “does not have an immediate path forward.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who is backing Trump, went to the White House late Wednesday to see if some compromise could be reached that would help reduce the number of GOP senators opposing the border emergency, according to a person familiar with the visit who described it on condition of anonymity. Trump’s Thursday comments indicated the visit didn’t produce results.

Under a four-decade-old law, presidents have wide leeway in declaring a national emergency. Congress can vote to block a declaration, but the two-thirds majorities required to overcome presidential vetoes make it hard for lawmakers to prevail. Presidents have never before declared an emergency after Congress voted to deny them money for the same purpose.

Lee proposed letting a presidential emergency last 30 days unless Congress votes to extend it. That would have applied to future emergencies but not Trump’s current order unless he sought to renew it next year.

The strongest chance of blocking Trump is likely several lawsuits filed by Democratic state attorneys general, environmental groups and others.

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Pogue 10:09 AM 03-14-2019
What’s the difference between a Republican and a Democrat?
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Prison Bitch 10:09 AM 03-14-2019
Doesn’t matter. In 16 months the Repube Party enters permanent minority status. They can still continue their lectures on “the Constitution” to whoever is still listening.
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Donger 10:19 AM 03-14-2019
In internal conversations, Trump has characterized the vote as a loyalty test, even though some of those who say they will vote for it, including Lee and Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, have proven to be allies on other issues in the past. Even as members of his staff were focused Wednesday on managing the Boeing plane crisis, Trump himself remained preoccupied with the looming vote, according to people who spoke with him.

He's fired off tweets. He's made direct appeals to lawmakers over the phone. And senators who attended a Wednesday meeting on trade also heard a bid from Trump on the national emergency, though at that stage he had already conceded the vote would likely pass.

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LiveSteam 10:30 AM 03-14-2019
Veto la merica
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Munson 10:34 AM 03-14-2019
Trump should have a veto signing rally.
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Donger 10:36 AM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Pogue:
What’s the difference between a Republican and a Democrat?
Besides spelling?
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Just Passin' By 10:36 AM 03-14-2019
And, after the resolution is passed, nothing will have changed.
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Fish 10:39 AM 03-14-2019
GOP SENATORS WANT EMERGENCY POWERS CAPPED TO STOP PRESIDENT 'ACTING LIKE A KING'

More than a dozen Republican senators introduced new legislation seeking to put a cap on presidential emergency powers, days before they were expected to vote on a measure against President Donald Trump's national emergency declaration on immigration.

In a statement introducing the legislation, Senator Mike Lee of Utah said he spearheaded the bill in a bid to stop a president from "acting like a king [by] taking back the legislative powers that allow him to do so." The new bill, he said, "will go a long way to restoring the balance of powers in our republic."

If passed, the new legislation, called the Assuring That Robust, Thorough and Informed Congressional Leadership Is Exercised Over National Emergencies (Article One) Act, would require the approval of Congress for any national emergency declaration to continue beyond 30 days. Without congressional approval, the declaration would be terminated.

In a backgrounder on the new bill, Lee's office said that "most people would agree that Congress should grant the president some degree of emergency power.

"In obvious cases, the president should have the statutory authority to respond to an immediate crisis, such as an act of war or natural disaster," it said. "The problem is that emergency powers are vulnerable to abuse; they can act as a cheat-code that undermines our system of separation of powers and enables the president to bypass the difficult work of enacting legislation."
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Donger 10:41 AM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Fish:
"The problem is that emergency powers are vulnerable to abuse; they can act as a cheat-code that undermines our system of separation of powers and enables the president to bypass the difficult work of enacting legislation."
And, unfortunately for the Buffoon in Chief and Trumpers, his own words show that was precisely what he intended.
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Just Passin' By 10:41 AM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Fish:
GOP SENATORS WANT EMERGENCY POWERS CAPPED TO STOP PRESIDENT 'ACTING LIKE A KING'

More than a dozen Republican senators introduced new legislation seeking to put a cap on presidential emergency powers, days before they were expected to vote on a measure against President Donald Trump's national emergency declaration on immigration.

In a statement introducing the legislation, Senator Mike Lee of Utah said he spearheaded the bill in a bid to stop a president from "acting like a king [by] taking back the legislative powers that allow him to do so." The new bill, he said, "will go a long way to restoring the balance of powers in our republic."

If passed, the new legislation, called the Assuring That Robust, Thorough and Informed Congressional Leadership Is Exercised Over National Emergencies (Article One) Act, would require the approval of Congress for any national emergency declaration to continue beyond 30 days. Without congressional approval, the declaration would be terminated.

In a backgrounder on the new bill, Lee's office said that "most people would agree that Congress should grant the president some degree of emergency power.

"In obvious cases, the president should have the statutory authority to respond to an immediate crisis, such as an act of war or natural disaster," it said. "The problem is that emergency powers are vulnerable to abuse; they can act as a cheat-code that undermines our system of separation of powers and enables the president to bypass the difficult work of enacting legislation."
Mike Lee's being an idiot.
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Prison Bitch 10:54 AM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
Mike Lee's being an idiot.
He represents a state full of kucks who don’t cRe about the border. So it makes sense he’d kuck out too.
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Donger 10:57 AM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
Mike Lee's being an idiot.
Do you deny that Trump stated exactly what Lee is referring to before he decided to enact the NE?
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BucEyedPea 11:43 AM 03-14-2019
Trump doesn't need to call for a nat'l emergency. All he has to do is call the Pentagon per 10 US Code 284 and ask them to build it.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/284
Fire your whole cabinet, except for Miller, and get a new one, President Trump. You're getting bad advice.
Get rid of Javanka too. Don Jr. said the only way to really get Trump's attention is to get angry, upset and in his face to lobby. Do it folks.
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BucEyedPea 11:45 AM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
Mike Lee's being an idiot.
Where were they when Obama was getting away with murder declaring the same emergencies and using EO to bypass congress?
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