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Dave Lane 07:37 AM 10-11-2016
With election day less than a month off, Republicans faced an extraordinary breach in party ranks Monday as House Speaker Paul D. Ryan declared he would no longer defend presidential nominee Donald Trump and instead focus on preserving the GOP’s majority in Congress.

Without formally withdrawing his endorsement, Ryan nonetheless delivered a stinging blow to Trump, urging Republican lawmakers in a conference call to do whatever they needed to win Nov. 8 — even if it meant cutting loose from the party’s national standard-bearer.

Ryan’s statements drew an immediate backlash, on Capitol Hill and at the party’s grass roots, as loyalists were stunned the top elected Republican in the country would abandon Trump at a time party leaders would normally be ramping up efforts to take back the White House.

Trump responded with a slap on Twitter. “Paul Ryan should spend more time on balancing the budget, jobs and illegal immigration and not waste his time on fighting Republican nominee,” Trump wrote.

Supporters, including some lawmakers who scolded Ryan during the private call, were equally aggrieved

Republican Party chairman reassures members: We're sticking by Trump

“What’s going on is our leadership panicked when there was a massive disclosure of a private conversation that Trump had 11 years ago in which he was grotesquely sexual and egotistical,” said Rep. Dana Rohrabacher of Huntington Beach, who called Ryan’s move cowardly.

“So, OK. That’s something of significance,” Rohrabacher said, sharing his account of the conversation in an interview afterward. But not, he went on, “as significant as the real issues that separate Hillary and Donald.”

“For us to try to undo what the Republican voters did in the primaries would be a betrayal to the Republican voters who made their choice,” Rohrabacher said.

The backbiting, a day after Trump and his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton waged a searing, insult-filled debate, underscored the bind facing the GOP and its leaders, who had come around to Trump’s candidacy with varying degrees of enthusiasm.

The choice amounts to rejecting the candidate selected by voters and risk the party’s base staying home out of pique, or continuing to embrace Trump — overlooking his offensive behavior — and possibly alienate women and other swing voters who can make a difference in close House and Senate contests.

“Republicans made a deal with the devil, and when you make a deal with the devil you end up in hell," said Rob Stutzman, a Republican strategist in Sacramento and longtime Trump critic.

Seeking to clamp down on speculation that the Republican National Committee was also primed to walk away from Trump, Chairman Reince Priebus told members the organization would continue to stand behind and work on behalf of the nominee through its "Victory" program, which aims to boost Republicans up and down the ticket.
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HonestChieffan 01:19 PM 10-11-2016
Total implosion. Trump will deeply injure the party for years to come
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Dave Lane 02:42 PM 10-11-2016
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan:
Total implosion. Trump will deeply injure the party for years to come
You and I have had rare agreement on the Trump debacle. Even in my wildest dreams when rooting for Trump in the primaries could I have imagined this implosion to even be remotely possible.
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Detoxing 02:44 PM 10-11-2016
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan:
Total implosion. Trump will deeply injure the party for years to come
Many, many "conservatives" here have been going on for months that they're only voting Trump to blow up the Republican Party.

Well guess what.....
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RNR 03:56 PM 10-11-2016
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan:
Total implosion. Trump will deeply injure the party for years to come
Trump supporters should be very proud. They are going to get a unelectable candidate who lost to an unknown black guy with an Arabic name last election elected~
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Prison Bitch 03:57 PM 10-11-2016
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan:
Total implosion. Trump will deeply injure the party for years to come
Awesome!
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stevieray 04:04 PM 10-11-2016
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan:
Total implosion. Trump will deeply injure the party for years to come
The party did it themselves...just like the dems with socialist and progressive candidates

Both parties have nominated people who don't fall under who you like more, rather who you hate less.

We did this to ourselves and deserve whatever we get.
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BigRedChief 04:20 PM 10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I don't buy in to what some commentators have suggested, when they've argued that this election could be the end of the GOP.

It's going to be veeeeeery interesting in 2020, though, as the GOP trots out a new stable of political talent for POTUS and every one of them has to defend how they stood by this guy for so long. Trump does have the ability to be a weight around the neck of the party, electorally, for the entirety of the Hillary Clinton administration.
I've been saying and now the talking heads on CNN also are saying that there may a big deal to be made between Clinton and Ryan. A "real" bi-partisan deal. They were saying that Ryan has determined that he will get tax, entitlement and welfare reform done with Clinton. Thats better than the big fat nothing in legislation he will get with Trump.
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BigRedChief 04:23 PM 10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!:
FFS, post a link.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...nap-story.html
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RNR 04:52 PM 10-11-2016
Originally Posted by stevieray:
The party did it themselves...just like the dems with socialist and progressive candidates

Both parties have nominated people who don't fall under who you like more, rather who you hate less.

We did this to ourselves and deserve whatever we get.
Only one party got burned to the ground~
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Prison Bitch 08:12 AM 03-14-2019
Paul Ryan
@SpeakerRyan

To be clear, GOP wins elections when they’re about ideas not when they’re personality contests like Dems & media want. We’re clearly better off because of
@RealDonaldTrump. His record of accomplishment is why he’ll win re-election especially when compared to Dems’ leftward lurch.


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vailpass 08:45 AM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Paul Ryan
@SpeakerRyan

To be clear, GOP wins elections when they’re about ideas not when they’re personality contests like Dems & media want. We’re clearly better off because of
@RealDonaldTrump. His record of accomplishment is why he’ll win re-election especially when compared to Dems’ leftward lurch.


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All the Dems had to do to put a mortal lock on winning the White House in 2020 was present a candidate representing stability, even-handedness, and decorum in the face of the whirlwind that is Trump's style.

Instead, they allow their vocal minority to pull them so far into the weeds that they now present an even more radical option than Trump with promises of the very social upheaval they needed to avoid. They'll likely snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Dems gonna' Dem.
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Marcellus 09:01 AM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by vailpass:
All the Dems had to do to put a mortal lock on winning the White House in 2020 was present a candidate representing stability, even-handedness, and decorum in the face of the whirlwind that is Trump's style.

Instead, they allow their vocal minority to pull them so far into the weeds that they now present an even more radical option than Trump with promises of the very social upheaval they needed to avoid. They'll likely snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Dems gonna' Dem.
Pretty amazing, all they had to do was not go full libtard, so they went full libtard.
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vailpass 09:33 AM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Pretty amazing, all they had to do was not go full libtard, so they went full libtard.
'zactly.
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patteeu 09:35 AM 03-14-2019
Yeah, but what if they win?
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Prison Bitch 09:36 AM 03-14-2019
So Chump lost in 2016 by 3M votes. I estimate he’s lost about another 3M over his immigration failures. That puts him -6M.


The electorate will also change on him a tad. I estimate this to be another 3M gap. That puts him as having to find 9M votes he didn’t have last time. (9M was also the 2018 midterm margin - so the #s work here)


Ain’t gonna happen.
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