Originally Posted by htismaqe:
No, the climate change community is a trillion dollar public/private partnership with billion dollar NGO's, comrade.
That is literally a conspiracy theory about a global cabal of scientists trying to trick the public so that they can *shuffles papers* make trillions off a hoax they invented.
I wonder if there's a documentary about that line of thinking. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
That is literally a conspiracy theory about a global cabal of scientists trying to trick the public so that they can *shuffles papers* make trillions off a hoax they invented.
I wonder if there's a documentary about that line of thinking.
You should come work in the government-funded windmill factory. Maybe the fiberglass flu would burn some sense into you. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
You should come work in the government-funded windmill factory. Maybe the fiberglass flu would burn some sense into you.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
You should come work in the government-funded windmill factory. Maybe the fiberglass flu would burn some sense into you.
I don't know what you want me to do with that information. [Reply]
Part of me wonders if the whole flat earth thing wasn't started by the gubment just to make a point of how stupid some conspiracy theorists are and make them all look bad.
I do believe in a number of them myself but damn guys, there must be some line you're willing to draw... [Reply]
It is harsh and all these green nuts have no idea it is going on. They whine about the oil companies and their windfall profits, completely oblivious to what is actually going on in the real world.
The windmill manufacturers pump millions of dollars into climate change research that 1) invariably "proves" we need hundreds upon hundreds more windmills and 2) gets reimbursed by the federal government in the form of "green energy manufacturing subsidies". One executive jokes that they actually GET PAID to open new factories because they receive enough subsidies to cover the cost PLUS some. The company is operating almost purely on profit, they have so few expenses.
Meanwhile, my buddy and a dozen of his co-workers get let go at the end of their 90-day probationary period because they're "not needed" and they just managed to miss their chance at health insurance by a few days. They have fiberglass burns on their knees, elbows, wrists, and neck due to poor working conditions but of course, nobody is going to pay for it. Ironically, even though they "weren't need", their replacements were hired in the few days following and those replacements were let go at EXACTLY the same point in their probationary period. Now they're sick and have no health insurance too.
My buddy tries to apply for unemployment and COBRA but is informed by the government that he's not eligible because he didn't complete his probationary period. His only recourse is to sue, which is continuously obstructed and eventually arbitrated (by the federal government, imagine that) into a small settlement to try and cover his bills. The government slaps the manufacturer with a couple hundred grand in fines, which is easily recouped by the millions they are getting in subsidies. More people get hired, more people get sick.
What's more, the workers there have tried to organize multiple times and have gotten nowhere. It seems the local chapter of the UAW, as well as other labor unions, have a 3-way handshake deal with the windmill companies and the federal government that they won't "get in the way of progress".
It's the absolute height of hypocrisy, corruption, and exploitation. All things that these leftists only care about when it's convenient for whatever political narrative is expedient. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It's the absolute height of hypocrisy, corruption, and exploitation. All things that these leftists only care about when it's convenient for whatever political narrative is expedient.
There is no longer any difference between big business and politics. Big business takes cabinet and appointment positions in administrations and politicians move to board positions after their terms are up.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It is harsh and all these green nuts have no idea it is going on. They whine about the oil companies and their windfall profits, completely oblivious to what is actually going on in the real world.
The windmill manufacturers pump millions of dollars into climate change research that 1) invariably "proves" we need hundreds upon hundreds more windmills and 2) gets reimbursed by the federal government in the form of "green energy manufacturing subsidies". One executive jokes that they actually GET PAID to open new factories because they receive enough subsidies to cover the cost PLUS some. The company is operating almost purely on profit, they have so few expenses.
Meanwhile, my buddy and a dozen of his co-workers get let go at the end of their 90-day probationary period because they're "not needed" and they just managed to miss their chance at health insurance by a few days. They have fiberglass burns on their knees, elbows, wrists, and neck due to poor working conditions but of course, nobody is going to pay for it. Ironically, even though they "weren't need", their replacements were hired in the few days following and those replacements were let go at EXACTLY the same point in their probationary period. Now they're sick and have no health insurance too.
My buddy tries to apply for unemployment and COBRA but is informed by the government that he's not eligible because he didn't complete his probationary period. His only recourse is to sue, which is continuously obstructed and eventually arbitrated (by the federal government, imagine that) into a small settlement to try and cover his bills. The government slaps the manufacturer with a couple hundred grand in fines, which is easily recouped by the millions they are getting in subsidies. More people get hired, more people get sick.
What's more, the workers there have tried to organize multiple times and have gotten nowhere. It seems the local chapter of the UAW, as well as other labor unions, have a 3-way handshake deal with the windmill companies and the federal government that they won't "get in the way of progress".
It's the absolute height of hypocrisy, corruption, and exploitation. All things that these leftists only care about when it's convenient for whatever political narrative is expedient.
You really need to watch this documentary.
A lot of the folks in this thread have made hay with the actual research the flat earthers attempted at the back of the film.
But how much actual science, other than that experiment, is in the documentary?
Zero.
How on earth do flat earther podcasts and vlogs record hundreds and hundreds of episodes?
It's not by talking science. Just like your post doesn't talk science.
It talks politics, and conspiracies, and cabals behind the curtain trying to trick you, subdue you and the bodypolitic, so that they can have their ways.
They do not talk the science, they talk the scientists. They do not talk about studies. They overwhelmingly talk about monied interests brainwashing us and the gullible fools who aren't brave enough to stand in their way.
They almost never talk about science. Watch the documentaries. Read their websites. Listen to their podcasts.
Or just re-read your post, which makes fair points about people being treated like shit and about how there is money to be made in renewable technology. But it doesn't really make any kind of scientific argument.
But if those concerns are guiding your doubt about man-made climate change, or vaccines, or the shape of the earth, and not the science (the fact is, the overwhelming consensus among climatologists is that climate change is happening thanks to mankind), then you are not disputing the science. You are literally a conspiracy theorist -- on this issue, at least. [Reply]
Defleckshun hates me and is too much of a pussy to ever respond to any of my posts, but for the benefit of everybody else who reads his drivel, or any of the other SCIENCE! fanbois, note that none of them responded to this:
Originally Posted by Frazod:
If anything, dipshit, it's the exact opposite. The only difference between flat earthers and global warming/climate change/whatever it's being called at the moment lemmings is that there's no worldwide socialist theft scheme behind flat earth. Other than that, you keep believing the same bullshit fed to you by the same people who are proven wrong over and over and over.
And of course the truth is that the climate HAS ALWAYS CHANGED. It changed before man existed. It changed when man was hunting mammoths with spears. The Sahara was once lush and fertile, but it's a desert now. Massive glaciers once carved the Great Lakes. You going to blame all that on Exxon and coal and too many plastic straws? Idiot.
I guess you're more like cultists who know exactly when the world is going to end, and when that date comes and goes, they just pick another date. Sort of like how the people who think for you absolutely knew for certain that the ice caps would be gone, and the ozone layer would be gone, and sea levels would have flooded coastal regions years ago. Oops.
It's nice that Neil deGrasse Tyson knows the earth is round. But it doesn't change the fact that when it comes to man made climate change he's a heavily compensated shill pushing an agenda. Or that you're buying into it hook, line and sinker. With other people's money, of course.
With apologies to Defleckshun and every other brainwashed leftist imbecile out there, I don't believe these people BECAUSE THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN WRONG. First it was a new ice age. Then it was global warming. Now it's climate change, because they keep getting drilled in the ass by trying to pin down extremes. So "climate change," much like Defleckshun on date night, can go either way.
When some quack predicted that the ice cap would melt a decade ago, but it didn't, is that SCIENCE? :-) [Reply]
