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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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SupDock 07:58 PM 04-07-2020

12,469 Americans died over the course of 1 year during the H1N1 flu pandemic in 2009. In just over 5 weeks, coronavirus has been linked to nearly 13,000 deaths in the U.S. https://t.co/qfefdJGEcP

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) April 8, 2020

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petegz28 07:59 PM 04-07-2020
Mo is actually 25
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Titty Meat 08:01 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by SupDock:
Yup that's why the "it's just a flu" argument was a stupid and dangerous one. It's important moving forward this thing isnt made into a political argument. We need to have a deep look at ourselves over how to handle these things in the future.
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BigCatDaddy 08:01 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Or Missouri.
Bingo
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TLO 08:03 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by SupDock:
The country was much less populated then, but it's still a very powerful message.

EDIT: I totally misread this. :-)
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Titty Meat 08:03 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Bingo
We arent out of the woods yet. How can you make any sort of determination without complete data? What's to say MO isnt 28th because of places like KCs swift response and had the governor acted sooner we would be even lower on the rankings?
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Halfcan 08:04 PM 04-07-2020
We were out and about today driving east on old Highway 24. A few notes after spending the day driving.

None of the small towns had anything open except Caseys and Dollar Generals. No TP until we scored at the Walmart in Oak Grove.

Blue Springs lake was packed full of people parked and congregating close together.

Nobody seemed too worried about anything, only saw 2 out of 25 patrons allowed in Walmart wearing a mask.
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petegz28 08:05 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
We arent out of the woods yet. How can you make any sort of determination without complete data? What's to say MO isnt 28th because of places like KCs swift response and had the governor acted sooner we would be even lower on the rankings?
Wha? If it's 28th it's 28th.
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eDave 08:06 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
The country was much less populated then, but it's still a very powerful message.
306.8 million (2009)
329.45 million ((2019)
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BigCatDaddy 08:08 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
We arent out of the woods yet. How can you make any sort of determination without complete data? What's to say MO isnt 28th because of places like KCs swift response and had the governor acted sooner we would be even lower on the rankings?
Not getting political here.

I disagree with your assessment though..KC didnt place strict measures in all that fast.
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Titty Meat 08:10 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Wha? If it's 28th it's 28th.
We havent even peaked yet.
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petegz28 08:11 PM 04-07-2020
All of the numbers are just starting to become mindnumbingling meaningless.

If we say x people have it you have a crowd scream it's because we aren't testing enough.

If we estimate the number of cases to be a lot more than what they have tested thus the death rate is really lower you have a crowd scream bullshit, you can't say that because ____

If we say the death number is X we have a crowd that scream we aren't counting all the people who "really" died from it.

We have dead people getting counted even though they may not have died from Covid-19

We have people being counted as having Covid-19 even though that haven't been tested because they show symptoms

We have test results being argued because someone said somewhere there are X number of false positives or false negatives

So basically it doesn't even matter what numbers you present anymore, some people are going to argue they aren't right for some reason or other
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petegz28 08:12 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
We havent even peaked yet.
So what? There is absolutely no raw data that says we are going to be a hot spot.
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Titty Meat 08:12 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Not getting political here.

I disagree with your assessment though..KC didnt place strict measures in all that fast.
We issued it 4 days after California. Wwve cracked down on hundreds of businesses and locked down parks because people weren't following the rules.

I fail how to see this is a "political" argument.
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petegz28 08:12 PM 04-07-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Not getting political here.

I disagree with your assessment though..KC didnt place strict measures in all that fast.
The KC area locked down 2-3 days after NY announced their lockdown.
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